Author Topic: The dedicated server software compared to other games' and why it has to change  (Read 8625 times)

Devin

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Out of interest are you all trying to host from home, windows PC's?
A friend has been meaning to try setup a server on a linux cloud storage (just not had time yet), wondered if anyone else had attempted it?
The stress test was performed on a Debian Jessie root server with a 6th generation Intel Xeon ;)
It does indeed work on linux, actually better than windows because you have a console there and you need no remote desktop for the server, which also allows for server mods (I've written one that allows for track voting before Bugbear implemented a track cycle). But that doesn't change the fact that the server runs horribly slow which makes it impossible for me to host. Don't expect a simple cloud storage to be able to run the game. You basically need a full gaming rig minus the graphics card for a Wreckfest server.

You are right though that the game should in theory not transmit anything more than rFactor, NASCAR heat, AC or Dirt Rally. But it does, because of the way the dedicated server was designed (a rushed server that is basically a full game client minus graphics output), and also due to the fact that bugbear tried to keep it as perfectly in sync as possible, which is mainly causing all the problems including input lag.

Everyone who ever read into playing old games like N64 online through netplay knows the basic way Wreckfest works, minus the high load caused by the damage etc., and netplay actually informs the players about the issues it comes with, for example it says an input lag of at least 2 frames is necessary, though 5 frames is recommended to avoid desync. Bugbear avoided Desync by transmitting every single detail, causing ultra high network load for a game like this.

BenDover

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Janne I know you have stuff to do and the server software might not be prio one but any word on this? :)
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Facial_Burns

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Thanks for bringing this back up ben, My servers gave been going down a few times a night now that numbers have picked up, so frustrating
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BenDover

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Thanks for bringing this back up ben, My servers gave been going down a few times a night now that numbers have picked up, so frustrating

Sad to hear that Burns, in around 24 hours mine have only crashed 3 times so thats "good" only sad thing is that one of the time I got 8+ players and after the crash only 3 rejoined.. :/

Hope its not a permanent thing for you server atleast!
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St. Jimmy

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Yeah I hosted couple days and noticed this issue. Is there anyway to post any kind of logs for BugBear so they maybe could check the issue with some crashes?
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BenDover

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Yeah I hosted couple days and noticed this issue. Is there anyway to post any kind of logs for BugBear so they maybe could check the issue with some crashes?

It can be anything really, sometimes it crashes when you kick/ban someone, sometimes when someone joins or leave and then of other issues unknown for me but it have happen even when those named dosent happen. :/
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Facial_Burns

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Yeah I hosted couple days and noticed this issue. Is there anyway to post any kind of logs for BugBear so they maybe could check the issue with some crashes?

It can be anything really, sometimes it crashes when you kick/ban someone, sometimes when someone joins or leave and then of other issues unknown for me but it have happen even when those named dosent happen. :/

Yup from what ive seen theirs no pattern, Just happens, and yeah me and devin were on the server hot it up too 1 or something then devin left and the server crashed a few mins later not many rejoined, i had the same got the server full so around 20 ppl it crashed and 10 rejoined, it sucks
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Facial_Burns

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just another one of the many glitches that happen daily....

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Facial_Burns

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And now it completely crashes 10 mins later........ Great fun after u spend the night getting it full goes from 24 b4 a crash to 12 after :/
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CFodder

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Hey at least you can get it to run with 24!!!

Facial_Burns

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it was just a test and it failed miserably back to 20....
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Facial_Burns

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its funny tho those who dont know i run multiple servers and say the one that just crashed was a terrible server and this one is great yet its the same server -_- but they would say that one is terrible too if it was set to 24 uggh when can they fix this
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Facial_Burns

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and it crashed again that made it a whole 15 mins wow, on 20 player limit that time aswell

really getting sick of this
« Last Edit: August 29, 2016, 11:00:04 PM by Facial_Burns »
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St. Jimmy

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What I've experienced, it doesn't matter too much how many players are in the server. My server crashed today with 10 players.
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Facial_Burns

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it does matter a hell of a lot, the more players the worse it gets, 24 is just not playable crashing is so constant then 20 is manageable for me i basically never crahs under 14 players its when u get over that u will see how bad it really is
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