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Wreckfest => Game Design => Topic started by: Rowdy Burns on October 10, 2016, 05:03:40 PM

Title: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Rowdy Burns on October 10, 2016, 05:03:40 PM
Looking forward to the release of Wreckfest on the PS4 and I would like to mention a few of my wishes.

> Allow controller configuration Left Stick steer - Right Stick accelerate up / brake down - Manual Gears R2 up / L2 down - R1 handbrake - L1 clutch is a must!

> As others have mentioned, remove the health bar. I`d like to see and hear if a car is on it`s last legs using my own judgment!

> I`d happily pay extra for a full blown UK Bangers DLC in the future!!
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Rowdy Burns on February 09, 2017, 05:17:24 PM
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L1 clutch is a must!
Changed my mind!...L1 rear view will be more usable in this game.
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Facial_Burns on February 09, 2017, 11:33:14 PM
The track maker tads is up for a DLC, dno about the car maker sam
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Rowdy Burns on February 10, 2017, 03:42:48 PM
That`s great news...UK Bangers on console would be proper awesome!

Seen some of the work from Duffer Josh`s Youtube channel point of view!...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG9cDa7YHjSrGnX2Edsotag (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG9cDa7YHjSrGnX2Edsotag)

The latest Wimbledon Stadium that was uploaded looks great!...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ--l9K4EOM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ--l9K4EOM)

Thumbs up to the guys working on it all!
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: sam223 on February 10, 2017, 04:14:24 PM
The track maker tads is up for a DLC, dno about the car maker sam
Depends whats involved and whats possible. People have said that PS4 mods are very limited (no additional external assets,meaning custom cars or tracks) and a 1gb limit? (about 2 cars with 10 skins). I don't have a console so wont be able to test either.
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Rowdy Burns on February 10, 2017, 05:29:22 PM
Can the files on console not be compressed or Bugbear pre-install a lot of it to begin with so it looks like a small mod file lol!

Seriously though... I really think it should be a full DLC content game to Wreckfest rather than a mod on the consoles and if that ain`t possible then it should be a game to buy in its own right with Mouldy old dough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO5GWJJP3FM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO5GWJJP3FM)  as it`s main soundtrack!!

Maybe a contract or something could be drawn up with Bugbear in the future?!
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: sam223 on February 11, 2017, 05:00:21 PM
Can the files on console not be compressed or Bugbear pre-install a lot of it to begin with so it looks like a small mod file lol!

Seriously though... I really think it should be a full DLC content game to Wreckfest rather than a mod on the consoles and if that ain`t possible then it should be a game to buy in its own right with Mouldy old dough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO5GWJJP3FM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO5GWJJP3FM)  as it`s main soundtrack!!

Maybe a contract or something could be drawn up with Bugbear in the future?!
The files are already compressed in mods, we use the same format as bugbear does for the official game. The only way i can see it working (if the file limits are so small) is either it comes with the game or paid DLC, however id say its fairly unlikely. All mods on the workshop are made with no formal training and very little guidance on how things should be setup for the game, theres probably loads of things setup wrong. So the tiny team at bugbear would have to either take responsibility (its play the mods at your own risk through steam) of what we've made or rebuild it all themselves.

There'd also be issue with copyright i think e.g ringwod isnt made by the very end,originally it was modeled by Stuart Cowie (who doesnt play wreckfest) for rfactor with permission to convert it over. Same goes for most of the oval tracks. Im not sure who now owns the license for these models (probably the original creator still), and i doubt there was any written agreement drawn up for any of them.So you can imagine what kinda problems would pop up if their content was suddenly for sale on PS4,whilst they received no money for it.

Sell your console and buy a 2nd hand pc with the money is the only easy option imo.
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Rowdy Burns on February 11, 2017, 07:17:45 PM
I had a look at Madcowie productions http://www.madcowieproductions.com/ (http://www.madcowieproductions.com/) plus some videos of Bangers Unlimited 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbEkoywlflY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbEkoywlflY) on android and I couldn`t see any trademark or copyright and no mention of an engine they`re using on their website (I did only skim read fast and may have missed something) surely if you`re using Bugbears engine there shouldn`t be a problem!

Think I just believe there is a big missed opportunity if this didn`t make it to console. Speaking of which...It ain`t about selling my console...It`s more like I can`t justify buying a PC for one game (I have been tempted with Wreckfest believe me lol) plus I`ve always been a console gamer!
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: sam223 on February 11, 2017, 07:48:02 PM
I had a look at Madcowie productions http://www.madcowieproductions.com/ (http://www.madcowieproductions.com/) plus some videos of Bangers Unlimited 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbEkoywlflY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbEkoywlflY) on android and I couldn`t see any trademark or copyright and no mention of an engine they`re using on their website (I did only skim read fast and may have missed something) surely if you`re using Bugbears engine there shouldn`t be a problem!

Think I just believe there is a big missed opportunity if this didn`t make it to console. Speaking of which...It ain`t about selling my console...It`s more like I can`t justify buying a PC for one game (I have been tempted with Wreckfest believe me lol) plus I`ve always been a console gamer!
Bangers unlimited 2 uses unity engine (its a phone game,i did some of the replica skins for it), you dont have to list unity as a game engine when you pay for a license. Although thats not the problem here,everything in madcowieproductions games,is made by madcowieproductions. The content in the wreckfest banger mods (tracks and cars) isn't originally made by the mod creators, we just have permission to convert/edit it to another game (from rfactor/nascar heat).

The cars for example,whilst they have been almost completely rebuilt/remodeled by me. I didn't make the whole model from scratch (would take many months longer per car). Where the copyright is now i am not sure,with me since ive rebuilt them? or with the original creator who hasn't given expressed permission that i/or anyone else could sell their (edited) models.

Certainly agree that's its a missed opportunity maybe,i get asked constantly when its coming to consoles. But its not as simple as just sticking it on the consoles as paid DLC. Would be easy if consoles allowed proper mod support like PC's do,but they don't.

Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Purple44 on February 11, 2017, 08:13:27 PM
When game makers take free mods done by the community and then release as a DLC for money, that get complicated and would be frown on.

Now say if Bugbear picked out some good mods from the community ( cars and tracks ), ask permission and made a DLC and release it for free, I think this would be OK and I hope may happen someday on the PC side. So we have a free DLC of mods that most of the Wreckfest community is label to get and race it online.  :)
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Rowdy Burns on February 11, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
I was thinking a free DLC pack would bypass a lot of the headaches too!

I wonder if Bugbear could answer the question... If the guys get the UK Bangers finished, could the Bugbear team test, certify and release on console as a free DLC pack?

Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: sam223 on February 11, 2017, 08:54:26 PM
+1 Some sort of officially endorsed community (free) mod pack might work. Hopefully Janne will read this thread
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: tolliverj on February 21, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
how about split screen if the ps4 can handle it at this level of graphics you could lower the graphics when in splitscreen i would not mind at all, i think it would be fun also the number of ai cars would have to be reduced as well but i would not mind at all splitscreen is a must for ps4 version.
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Rowdy Burns on February 28, 2017, 02:50:58 AM
how about split screen if the ps4 can handle it at this level of graphics you could lower the graphics when in splitscreen i would not mind at all, i think it would be fun also the number of ai cars would have to be reduced as well but i would not mind at all splitscreen is a must for ps4 version.

I`d actually prefer to be selfish with this game and have the full screen to myself with cleaner graphics and a full grid on the track. But I also don`t mind if there is an option that says "split screen" in the menus...as long as there are no impossible trophy/achievements for that mode!!
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: tolliverj on February 28, 2017, 04:43:53 PM
how about split screen if the ps4 can handle it at this level of graphics you could lower the graphics when in splitscreen i would not mind at all, i think it would be fun also the number of ai cars would have to be reduced as well but i would not mind at all splitscreen is a must for ps4 version.

I`d actually prefer to be selfish with this game and have the full screen to myself with cleaner graphics and a full grid on the track. But I also don`t mind if there is an option that says "split screen" in the menus...as long as there are no impossible trophy/achievements for that mode!!


why not? i think split screen is impotent to racing game's since its going to be on consoles. i don't want online trophies that will be impossible to get after the servers are shut down like motorstorm pacific rift anybody remember that crap i had to use those instant trophies save game to get them.
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Rowdy Burns on March 03, 2017, 02:17:14 PM
+1 Some sort of officially endorsed community (free) mod pack might work. Hopefully Janne will read this thread

Still wondering if Janne has read this thread!  :)


how about split screen if the ps4 can handle it at this level of graphics you could lower the graphics when in splitscreen i would not mind at all, i think it would be fun also the number of ai cars would have to be reduced as well but i would not mind at all splitscreen is a must for ps4 version.

I`d actually prefer to be selfish with this game and have the full screen to myself with cleaner graphics and a full grid on the track. But I also don`t mind if there is an option that says "split screen" in the menus...as long as there are no impossible trophy/achievements for that mode!!


why not? i think split screen is impotent to racing game's since its going to be on consoles. i don't want online trophies that will be impossible to get after the servers are shut down like motorstorm pacific rift anybody remember that crap i had to use those instant trophies save game to get them.

I just haven`t used split screen on a console since PS1/PS2 days so it wouldn`t get any use in my house and if it did it would just be a novelty for a day or so! Yeah I remember thinking I`ll platinum Motorstorm 2 cos it Motorstorm but it never happened lol I think there`s nothing worse than them impossible or stupidly tedious trophies!
Title: Re: PS4 Wish List
Post by: Luda on May 16, 2018, 03:58:49 PM
I've a PS4 and preordered the game over a year ago, so I'm really looking forward to it.

Just been through the custom skins thread and would love to be able to add my own - been using Illustrator and Photoshop for 20+ years now, but then the mention of .exe files put me off cos I only use Mac.

Will custom skins be available for PS4?


If it's not, I'd really like to be able to change the number AND number style regardless of the car. Seeing the same cars ALL with the same numbers looks bad in all the pics and videos I've seen.