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Title: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 01, 2018, 02:17:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZLd1hbRh.png)

Lights are green – Wreckfest leaves Early Access after only 1611 days!

Get ready to race and to smash your opponents! Wreckfest, from renowned developer and racing game expert Bugbear Entertainment has entered the final lap and is closing in on the finishing line.

On June 14th 2018, Wreckfest launches on PC and on November 20th, Wreckfest will be released on PlayStation®4 and Xbox One.

With the release, players can expect a set of brand new features. The challenge mode with all new unusal vehicles – like a crop harvester – guarantees crazy races, you’ve never seen before. Also players can now customize their cars with quirky items. Why would anyone have a car without a shark fin?

Stay tuned for more exciting news!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 01, 2018, 02:21:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZLd1hbRh.png)

Lights are green – Wreckfest leaves Early Access after only 1611 days!

Get ready to race and to smash your opponents! Wreckfest, from renowned developer and racing game expert Bugbear Entertainment has entered the final lap and is closing in on the finishing line.

On June 14th 2018, Wreckfest launches on PC and on November 20th, Wreckfest will be released on PlayStation®4 and Xbox One.

With the release, players can expect a set of brand new features. The challenge mode with all new unusal vehicles – like a crop harvester – guarantees crazy races, you’ve never seen before. Also players can now customize their cars with quirky items. Why would anyone have a car without a shark fin?

Stay tuned for more exciting news!

Uuuuhhhhhhhhh, the time has finally come!  :'( :'( :'( Can't believe it!! :) :D  8)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 01, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Is there going to be physical copy of Wreckfest Janne?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 01, 2018, 02:24:11 PM
love the picture! is this an ingame render? And is this the new logo of wreckfest? maybe also a new ui design?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 01, 2018, 02:24:41 PM
Great! This challenger mode, can you give some info about this? How many events, what kind of events can we expect etc?
And since no patch for us, please at least give us a couple of screenshots :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: rhamm on June 01, 2018, 02:26:18 PM
Is it going to be "enhanced" for the Xbox One X when those versions are released?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 01, 2018, 02:28:49 PM
Is there going to be physical copy of Wreckfest Janne?

Not decided yet.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 01, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
Is that new mountains back there? also what is up with that cool stack of cars? is it part of a new game mode? cool news Janne!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 01, 2018, 02:39:54 PM
Is there information about new tracks (not only other routes), landscapes, weather scenarios like rain, and much more? The AI has to be so much faster and stronger, on hard it is too easy for me. I just hope that everything fits in the release and the game is done. I've been following this game for 4 years and I'm scared to be disappointed in the end because I still have a lot missing in the game. Thanks for your answer forward! :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 01, 2018, 02:52:56 PM
The challenge mode with all new unusal vehicles – like a crop harvester – guarantees crazy races, you’ve never seen before.....

sorry sounds super gay....if you ask me....dont ruin it . the game is just great just like it is right now!

crop harvester....its wreckfest....not farming simulator or something else....whats the backer car going to be? a tractor?

im dissapointed >:( :(
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 01, 2018, 02:55:29 PM
The challenge mode with all new unusal vehicles – like a crop harvester – guarantees crazy races, you’ve never seen before.....

sorry sounds super gay....if you ask me....dont ruin it . the game is just great just like it is right now!

crop harvester....its wreckfest....not farming simulator or something else....whats the backer car going to be? a tractor?

im dissapointed >:( :(

Hey Hey chill man... I am thinking the tractor might be near a new farm we race though or the tractor is parked next to the track like an obstacle! lol it's all good mate.. we hope! lol
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TheEngiGuy on June 01, 2018, 03:01:24 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 01, 2018, 03:03:35 PM
The challenge mode with all new unusal vehicles – like a crop harvester – guarantees crazy races, you’ve never seen before.....

sorry sounds super gay....if you ask me....dont ruin it . the game is just great just like it is right now!

crop harvester....its wreckfest....not farming simulator or something else....whats the backer car going to be? a tractor?

im dissapointed >:( :(

1: Then don't play that event
2: using gay as a form of insult in 2018, grow up already
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Finsku on June 01, 2018, 03:06:22 PM
The challenge mode with all new unusal vehicles – like a crop harvester – guarantees crazy races, you’ve never seen before.....

sorry sounds super gay....if you ask me....dont ruin it . the game is just great just like it is right now!

crop harvester....its wreckfest....not farming simulator or something else....whats the backer car going to be? a tractor?

im dissapointed >:( :(

Yeah, Wreckfest is so gay. Graphichs are colourful like a rainbow, not a black and white...
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Paul_B on June 01, 2018, 03:08:19 PM
So we definitely getting a new game, not just an update?

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Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 01, 2018, 03:10:58 PM
So we definitely getting a new game, not just an update?

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eh what? whats your BAC mate lol
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Rowdy Burns on June 01, 2018, 03:20:18 PM
Is there going to be physical copy of Wreckfest Janne?

Not decided yet.

I'll buy the PS4 Collectors Edition if you decide on that!!  :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 01, 2018, 03:22:23 PM
Using Google, I can't find any new trailer for Wreckfest!  :o

With a final release, you would think there be a fresh new Wreckfest video to promote the game? Also no pre-order special.  :o

This make me feel final release maybe being rush a bit. Will Wreckfest be ready for prime time?

Or is the big promotion being save for the console versions?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: HansPremium on June 01, 2018, 03:43:54 PM
i also wonder if we get a trailer ? the e3 trailer from last year was really just an alibi trailer and a proper trailer would bring a lot more attention to the game
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TheEngiGuy on June 01, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Using Google, I can't find any new trailer for Wreckfest!  :o

i also wonder if we get a trailer ? the e3 trailer from last year was really just an alibi trailer and a proper trailer would bring a lot more attention to the game

Agreed. Steam store page still shows the very first teaser trailer.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: KingOfTheCakes on June 01, 2018, 03:56:43 PM
Will we be able to race the Harvester online with just regular cars, like  we can with the Mower? I can imagine it being the perfect thing to use for blocking the track if so. I mean, it would be funny at first... but at the same time, I hope it's not a thing players can do.

Glad to see it's finally coming together though :D As a kickstarter backer, it's been a long time coming.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 01, 2018, 03:59:21 PM
I'm happy that this game is finally leaving early access. I hope you guys are able to do more games with THQNordic.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Paul_B on June 01, 2018, 04:09:16 PM
What I mean is the release has all the bells an whistles
So we definitely getting a new game, not just an update?

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eh what? whats your BAC mate lol

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Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 01, 2018, 04:22:34 PM
Hmm, someone forgot make this small change over at Wreckfest Steam store page:

Release Date:
Jan 14, 2014


Someone change the name to just Wreckfest and page has the new Wreckfest sceenshot.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/228380/Wreckfest/
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: happyrichie on June 01, 2018, 04:35:11 PM
please tell me u at least fixed the heavy hitter awards and such?!? everybody misses them dam it!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 01, 2018, 05:25:07 PM
please tell me u at least fixed the heavy hitter awards and such?!? everybody misses them dam it!

They said stats probably will make a return after the game has been released. Not enough time to risk screwing up things now before release.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 01, 2018, 05:45:31 PM
please tell me u at least fixed the heavy hitter awards and such?!? everybody misses them dam it!

They said stats probably will make a return after the game has been released. Not enough time to risk screwing up things now before release.
Very much this^. Much wanted and hopefully it returns in the 'near' future. But im sure most can live without it for a bit longer.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Dalags on June 01, 2018, 06:14:02 PM
i also wonder if we get a trailer ? the e3 trailer from last year was really just an alibi trailer and a proper trailer would bring a lot more attention to the game
The game has changed so much since the first trailer, I think it's highly unlikely they won't want to showcase their progress with a new trailer.

The promotional poster looks really good! Best of luck Bugbear, I hope the game shares the same success as the Flatout series. I'm looking forward to playing the final game and seeing how the console releases bring in a larger Wreckfest community.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: basti4655 on June 01, 2018, 06:36:16 PM
I hope the final release bring in much more players.
Would be so sad if multiplayer dies just a few months after release.

If this would really happen then i definetly buy a console just for this game because im sure there will be more than enough players.

I wish bugbear all the best and the game getting big seller. They deserve it.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: NicoP on June 01, 2018, 06:37:44 PM
So its finish ? No more updates ? No fixing about the bad AI? The hard mode is way too easy :/ I am sad, it miss so many things! But i understand bugbear want to finish and pass over.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Flying-Spirit on June 01, 2018, 06:46:57 PM
So its finish ?

No,  it's Finnish.   8)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 01, 2018, 07:22:32 PM
I hope the game will make a huge impact at E3 to attract a lot of new players and a lot of new bigger youtubers so the game will work and we can maybe have new free update to improve the game. Wait and see for the new update, i'm a bit sceptic about the unusual vehicles but I hope it will be fun and crazy indeed !
I really want to see all the new tracks !
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 01, 2018, 07:32:28 PM
Yeah, unfortunately THQnordic is not going to be at E3 ... strangely. I don't really understand why, but it is what it is I guess ???

https://thqnordic.com/article/thq-nordic-swap-participation-e3-2018-fifa-world-cup
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 01, 2018, 07:33:19 PM
I really do like this. seems more customization options to come.
(https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/228380/ss_8988ac77f10d14aa369fd49e5274fa793949e076.1920x1080.jpg?t=1527852170)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: conso1727 on June 01, 2018, 07:35:03 PM
When will we receive the email to confirm our name in the credits as backers?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 01, 2018, 07:35:26 PM
Oh, where is that picture from? Or can we style car like that now?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 01, 2018, 07:37:04 PM
The official Steam page
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 01, 2018, 10:26:25 PM
I hope the game will make a huge impact at E3 to attract a lot of new players and a lot of new bigger youtubers so the game will work and we can maybe have new free update to improve the game. Wait and see for the new update, i'm a bit sceptic about the unusual vehicles but I hope it will be fun and crazy indeed !
I really want to see all the new tracks !

No Wreckfest at E3:

I ask THQ dev about E3 and he said this:

loquee - Today at 3:21 AM
I think we'll not be there officially. but our PR guy will certainly stroll around.
Don't be too hyped about any potential announcement today.


Maybe no announcement today either.

When will we receive the email to confirm our name in the credits as backers?

Did you click on Register Name at top of forum page?

Register Name - with Bugbear (http://community.bugbeargames.com/index.php/topic,11004.0.html)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: conso1727 on June 01, 2018, 10:29:35 PM
Did you click on Register Name at top of forum page?

Register Name - with Bugbear (http://community.bugbeargames.com/index.php/topic,11004.0.html)
Oooh, shiny! Will do now
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 01, 2018, 10:33:52 PM
Did you click on Register Name at top of forum page?

Register Name - with Bugbear (http://community.bugbeargames.com/index.php/topic,11004.0.html)
Oooh, shiny! Will do now


I just checked my emails and I did get an email from Bugbear about registering my name May 24.


And if you still want to get emails from Bugbear, because you subscribe to there web site here:  http://www.wreckfestgame.com/

You might want read email too:

At Bugbear Entertainment Ltd, we value your privacy and we’re committed to protecting it. We’ve made updates to our Privacy Policy to increase transparency and comply with the European Union’s new General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), taking effect on May 25th, 2018. We have made our best effort to make it easier for you to learn how we are processing your personal information, tell you what information we collect about you and how we use it, and what rights you have regarding your personal information and how to exercise them. We encourage you to read through our updated Privacy Policy.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: conso1727 on June 01, 2018, 10:37:57 PM
"This registration tool is used to register your name for in-game use in case you've pre-ordered Master Blaster or Team Bugbear Member product tier of Wreckfest."
Ah that explains it, I'm just on a Wrecker badge. I hoped to be featured in the credits, at least :(
But I will make the best of the backer car, that's for sure!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 01, 2018, 11:32:16 PM
I must celebrate to this news! and really stoked on the new game mode(s)!!! Janne, I will drink a few in favor of your great work you have done, and keeping us informed which is key!

(http://i64.tinypic.com/fv9sup.jpg)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TPEHAK on June 02, 2018, 05:02:25 AM
I'm so excited!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Zebulon55 on June 02, 2018, 10:23:52 AM

crop harvester....its wreckfest....not farming simulator or something else....whats the backer car going to be? a tractor?

im dissapointed >:( :(

Hey Hey chill man... I am thinking the tractor might be near a new farm we race though or the tractor is parked next to the track like an obstacle! lol it's all good mate.. we hope! lol

Out here in farm country we call "a harvester" a combine. Farmers can put a bean head or corn head on the front, and it picks and shells the crop, like 8 to 16 rows at a time, maybe more.

We also have combine demolition derbies every summer. I've never driven one or gone to see the derby though. Never stirred my interest.

Should be good for a laugh.  8)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 02, 2018, 11:32:17 AM
important question....the challange mode....will it only avalible in single player? (i hope so)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 02, 2018, 11:58:14 AM
There are so many ideas for new tracks and landscapes. Just look at other games, at flat out 1 and 2 or just in the most popular mods for Wreckfest, there are such great tracks! I do not understand why the same (sometimes boring) routes are involved in the game ever since. Always a new route is so lame. I want to see exciting new worlds and roads with even more elements on and off the track that breaks down !!! :)

Plesae hear me …
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 02, 2018, 03:55:21 PM
important question....the challange mode....will it only avalible in single player? (i hope so)

Yes, but the special vehicles can be used in multiplayer as well unless the server prohibits it.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Caley19 on June 02, 2018, 04:24:42 PM
There are so many ideas for new tracks and landscapes. Just look at other games, at flat out 1 and 2 or just in the most popular mods for Wreckfest, there are such great tracks! I do not understand why the same (sometimes boring) routes are involved in the game ever since. Always a new route is so lame. I want to see exciting new worlds and roads with even more elements on and off the track that breaks down !!! :)

Plesae hear me …

Well, you need a lot of new textures, materials and models to build a new fresh environment and a lot of time. But personaly I would be very glad to see new tracks and even better - new environments  :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FeltHat on June 02, 2018, 08:05:13 PM
quick reminder that there are still a lot of regions without option to buy deluxe upgrade
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 03, 2018, 01:01:00 AM
I think it time have a discussion about this before June 14, so I start a thread:

Will\ should the mods at Steam Workshop be wipe come final release day June 14? (http://community.bugbeargames.com/index.php/topic,11040.0.html)


I also wondering Janne, why Wreckfest has not gone on sale for the next 2 weeks leading up to June 14 release day?

Not expecting a 50% sale, ( too late for that, guys have had plenty of chances to pick up NCG\ Wreckfest for 50% off since 2014  :P ). But was kinda expecting to see a 20-25% off sale before final release day.

Did a little checking and Steam summer sale start June 21. If THQ going wait until then to put Wreckfest on sale, there going be a lot of upset players, that brought Wreckfest in the next 3 weeks at full retail price and then find out Wreckfest on sale for 25% off come June 21!


From steam forum today:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/228380/discussions/0/1697174779855855592/?tscn=1527972430

Quote from: WarTherapy
which should not hard to answer properly.

i want to buy this game.

does the price increase when it comes out?
is there a sale before it comes out or on launch day?

i don't want to buy it now for 40 bucks when i can pay 20 tomorrow

and i don't want to wait until release and pay maybe 60 bucks instead of 40.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Eggtooth on June 03, 2018, 03:02:07 AM
important question....the challange mode....will it only avalible in single player? (i hope so)

Yes, but the special vehicles can be used in multiplayer as well unless the server prohibits it.

Janne, is that true that game will have School buses? I saw on amazon game description, and it says that we will have school bus derbies :o
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 03, 2018, 04:35:06 AM
important question....the challange mode....will it only avalible in single player? (i hope so)

Yes, but the special vehicles can be used in multiplayer as well unless the server prohibits it.

Janne, is that true that game will have School buses? I saw on amazon game description, and it says that we will have school bus derbies :o

I also curious why mention of buses was left out of PC version announcement. Will we have to wait until Nov to see an update to PC version before we see the buses?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 03, 2018, 09:49:19 AM
https://www.thqnordic.com/games/wreckfest
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Caley19 on June 03, 2018, 10:19:32 AM
Any chance we will see an official trailer in 2 weeks?  ;)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Zebulon55 on June 03, 2018, 11:48:53 AM
important question....the challange mode....will it only avalible in single player? (i hope so)

Yes, but the special vehicles can be used in multiplayer as well unless the server prohibits it.

Janne, is that true that game will have School buses? I saw on amazon game description, and it says that we will have school bus derbies :o

I also curious why mention of buses was left out of PC version announcement. Will we have to wait until Nov to see an update to PC version before we see the buses?

cars in community build are numbered 1 thru 25 ... with 7 spots not filled yet. Backer car, bus, combine, 4 more?...

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 03, 2018, 12:45:31 PM
https://www.thqnordic.com/games/wreckfest (https://www.thqnordic.com/games/wreckfest)

Does say buses on that web page.  :D

Challenge modes – Have hilarious fun with crop harvesters, lawn mowers, school buses, three-wheelers and much more!

 :D  :D

********************************************

Tonight online it was impossible to have just an all lawnmower derby at the grass derby pit.  :(  :(

(http://www.lay-zmattress.com/flatout2/purple44/Next%20Car%20Game%202018/lawnmower-derby-online.jpg)

(http://www.lay-zmattress.com/flatout2/purple44/Next%20Car%20Game%202018/lawnmower-derby-online2.jpg)

There 2 things stopping us from having mower derby and racing online in a server.

1. Not all players have a mower!! Would it be possible just give all players a stock mover in their garage? If not that, can we get a mower as a rental?

2. We need a server option to restrict cars to only lawnmowers. I can do it if I start a player host with Car Class Restriction set to Host's Car. But then all players have to use the same car I pick for the other races.

If we could have a server option to restrict cars to a class like A, B, C, D and movers or none, let us admins change car restriction on the fly, would work. But seem Wreckfest has to restart player host\ server to be able to change car restriction. :(

***************************************

Also this happen again online tonight with the Speedway 1 fig8 track. A player get hit at the crossing and end up behind the barrier wall:

(http://www.lay-zmattress.com/flatout2/purple44/Next%20Car%20Game%202018/missing-trailer-ramp.jpg)

Why did the trailer ramps we use to use to jump back onto track ( Speedway 1 fig8 ) get remove Janne? We were real happy to see the ramps first time they got put in.  :D  Any chance we could at least get one trailer ramp here on the side where it usual for cars to get knock over the wall? Online, we have resets off on fig8 tracks.

(http://www.lay-zmattress.com/flatout2/purple44/Next%20Car%20Game%202018/missing-trailer-ramp2.jpg)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 03, 2018, 12:47:04 PM
It would be so cool if we saw another race track with this corrugated iron hut on the left side.

(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/1048887_582687548420854_72165985_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1f4a74a0560e739b25163fa5f0677249&oe=5BC2B67A)


And I hope this picture is an in game render image! I love the way the sheet metal and the tires are deformed.

(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34155936_1778995058790091_234651921854496768_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=c4bfc441a258f2468f2f7987e4f5b95c&oe=5BB780D7)


cant wait for the release :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 03, 2018, 08:04:09 PM
I love the new picture of Wreckfest, it reminds me from Flatout 1 main menu :D
And what is the car under the rammer, I can not determine which car it is
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 03, 2018, 08:09:05 PM
I love the new picture of Wreckfest, it reminds me from Flatout 1 main menu :D
And what is the car under the rammer, I can not determine which car it is
I think its the Speedemon
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 03, 2018, 08:16:54 PM
Ah yes you are true thank you
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 03, 2018, 10:09:32 PM
My mind runs wild thinking of ATV's with all the ragdoll goodness. Also, the tactical implications of ATV's in a Crash Canyon race could
be interesting! Hell, having fast ATV's in ANY race could be interesting.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Heddly on June 03, 2018, 10:38:17 PM
I have ridden three wheeled ATVs before and they roll over too easily. You have to be able to lean over in turns to stay upright.

A Quad runner would be much better.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 04, 2018, 06:10:57 PM
on thursday we can get a first impression of the final game. cant wait for the livestream!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 04, 2018, 06:17:35 PM
on thursday we can get a first impression of the final game. cant wait for the livestream!
So bunch of random youtubers get to play it before us die hard fans who been patiently waiting for over 5 years? ehhhh
PR thing I guess, get more attention to the game. still feels pretty sh***y.  >:(
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 04, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
on thursday we can get a first impression of the final game. cant wait for the livestream!
So bunch of random youtubers get to play it before us die hard fans who been patiently waiting for over 5 years? ehhhh
PR thing I guess, get more attention to the game. still feels pretty sh***y.  >:(


Well, it was the Sneak Peak demo going viral on youtube channels that had a million+ subscribers or we have no Next Car Game today and Bugbear would had to close their doors back in late 2013.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 04, 2018, 06:40:53 PM
on thursday we can get a first impression of the final game. cant wait for the livestream!
So bunch of random youtubers get to play it before us die hard fans who been patiently waiting for over 5 years? ehhhh
PR thing I guess, get more attention to the game. still feels pretty sh***y.  >:(
Well, it was the Sneak Peak demo going viral on youtube channels that had a million+ subscribers or we have no Next Car Game today and Bugbear would had to close their doors back in late 2013.

I don't think we have Wreckfest only thanks to a few youtubers. The tech demo would have gone viral anayway. It was just so good. :) Just having lot's of subscribers doesn't make every video go viral.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 04, 2018, 08:25:20 PM
so some youtuber can play the final version of wreckfest? is that right? and we can watch them play on thursday????
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 04, 2018, 09:15:20 PM
so some youtuber can play the final version of wreckfest? is that right? and we can watch them play on thursday????
yes thats right! But some of them never played wreckfest before cause thats not their game genre.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 04, 2018, 09:39:21 PM
I don't think we have Wreckfest only thanks to a few youtubers. The tech demo would have gone viral anayway. It was just so good. :) Just having lot's of subscribers doesn't make every video go viral.

Haha that reminded me that my sneak peek gameplay video has something like 300k views. Haven't checked that for a year at least. I guess I uploaded one of the first videos and that's why it has so many views :D My channel has only maybe 30 subs or so because I'm not really a youtuber.

I don't care about waiting couple days more than some streamers. Hopefully it brings some good PR.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Caley19 on June 04, 2018, 10:50:23 PM
Come on guys don't be jelaous that you can't play new stuff already as youtubers do :P I'm just glad we can see what's new thanks to them and also a lot of new players will come!  :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 04, 2018, 11:35:06 PM
Come on guys don't be jelaous that you can't play new stuff already as youtubers do :P I'm just glad we can see what's new thanks to them and also a lot of new players will come!  :)


iam pissed -.- we are all testers and stuff for years...i have this game sine 2014. and som fucking shit youtubers get their hands on the final version before me? F.Y THQ/BB
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 04, 2018, 11:38:48 PM
Lol calm your tits. This is what 99 percent of all companies do. They let reviewers and personalities get them some days before the others, as it creates a bit publicity. And ultimately, we get it the 14th of June :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Paul_B on June 04, 2018, 11:40:02 PM
http://www.wreckfestgame.com/the-incredible-wreckfest-headliner-world-tour-2018-watch-your-stream-team-get-wrecked/ (http://www.wreckfestgame.com/the-incredible-wreckfest-headliner-world-tour-2018-watch-your-stream-team-get-wrecked/)

I known only 2 Youtubers on that list.  Jimmy Broadbent 100k subs, hard core sim racer but does some arcade stuff, an only 1 Wreckfest video from 3 years ago.
Failrace 198k subs, has done a bunch of Wreckfest videos.

So it's clearly a marketing promo based on subs alone.

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 04, 2018, 11:46:14 PM
we should get it the same time...because we are the real tester all the bugs we going thru....
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 05, 2018, 12:31:26 AM
I am very divided. on the one hand we have tested the game a lot, gave so much feedback and it would certainly not be bad to publish a pre-release build to ensure that most are satisfied with the final product. on the other hand i also understand that bugbear might want to surprise us and there are some other innovations that really surprise us. i can also imagine that there are some users here in this forum who are already testing the game, but are not allowed to talk about it. who knows? 8)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 05, 2018, 02:22:33 AM
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/XlGdY (https://www.artstation.com/artwork/XlGdY) look what i found  ??? new car ist also on thq nordic site
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: [ASSASSIN] Devils Shadow on June 05, 2018, 02:55:45 AM
That cars already in game, its just re-skinned.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 05, 2018, 04:45:12 AM
Okay, so THQ/BB is going to stream the game before launch. I won't be watching nor do I care. I will wait for full release and
experience it for myself. Watching others unveil the game is ridiculous. Why would I care to see this after waiting over 3 years?
No thanks! I will experience the fun and surprises with my own eyes, on my own PC, with my own controller.

Now, I understand WHY they are doing this. It is obviously to garner as much visibility as possible and get sales. They need to recoup alot of money and eventually make a reasonable profit so as to continue further development. The sour feelings of long time supporters, modders and testers is very much justified and very much warranted but in the bigger picture this game needs to succeed
in a major way. This is the way things get handled these days I guess.

I'm just glad this game came back from the brink and will have fun with it when it's my time. Screw the marketing BS.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest100380 on June 05, 2018, 04:57:55 AM
I feel the early backers of Wreckfest should get to download the final version a day or two before it's released to the public. That's my 2 cents on the matter.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Phen248 on June 05, 2018, 05:10:16 AM
I was kind of hoping to see Jeff Favignano and Bay Area Buggs on that list, they're my go-to guys for Wreckfest YT content, are hilarious when driving together, and share over 1.8 million subs between the two of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CwrEriK_W8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CwrEriK_W8)

Failrace is pretty good though, I'll probably watch his stream.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 05, 2018, 06:58:20 AM
I'm Rooting for FailRace.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Callahan420 on June 05, 2018, 07:45:57 AM
Doubt I tune in solely because of Yogscast. If I do I will be asking what happened to the Kickstarter money. :)

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 05, 2018, 08:58:08 AM
on thursday we can get a first impression of the final game. cant wait for the livestream!
So bunch of random youtubers get to play it before us die hard fans who been patiently waiting for over 5 years? ehhhh
PR thing I guess, get more attention to the game. still feels pretty sh***y.  >:(
Well, it was the Sneak Peak demo going viral on youtube channels that had a million+ subscribers or we have no Next Car Game today and Bugbear would had to close their doors back in late 2013.

I don't think we have Wreckfest only thanks to a few youtubers. The tech demo would have gone viral anayway. It was just so good. :) Just having lot's of subscribers doesn't make every video go viral.

I never knew of youtubers with a million plus subscribers existed until some links were posted!   :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SvRZpykS6s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SvRZpykS6s)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 05, 2018, 10:12:46 AM
Btw they easily could release the password for pre-release build for everyone just after the streaming event is over. Or push that build as main build for everybody if it's good enough.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: BrianUK on June 05, 2018, 12:41:22 PM
http://www.wreckfestgame.com/the-incredible-wreckfest-headliner-world-tour-2018-watch-your-stream-team-get-wrecked/ (http://www.wreckfestgame.com/the-incredible-wreckfest-headliner-world-tour-2018-watch-your-stream-team-get-wrecked/)

I known only 2 Youtubers on that list.  Jimmy Broadbent 100k subs, hard core sim racer but does some arcade stuff, an only 1 Wreckfest video from 3 years ago.
Failrace 198k subs, has done a bunch of Wreckfest videos.

So it's clearly a marketing promo based on subs alone.

Having a quick look at the UK list, Hat Films are on there and they played some very recently. Granted they took the piss out of the name, but they enjoyed what they played.

Don't expect them to be any good though...
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Speedevil on June 05, 2018, 01:16:52 PM
Guys, you know you aren't special because you backed the game, right? Everything you'll get are the bonuses listed on the Kickstarter pages, nothing more.

Also that car is the Gatecrasher, except it has a front end here.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 05, 2018, 04:44:38 PM
Guys, you know you aren't special because you backed the game, right? Everything you'll get are the bonuses listed on the Kickstarter pages, nothing more.

Also that car is the Gatecrasher, except it has a front end here.
No one has said that any one of us is 'special'. I'm just confused as to why these people get to play it first? If build is good enough to show to public, why not let everyone play it?

Think of it this way, you been waiting in line for 5 hours for a product you really want, and when the store is opened, bunch of people can just jump the queue in front of you. When you finally get to the shop, all they say is 'Sorry, we ran out, come back next week'. Howd you feel about that?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 05, 2018, 05:11:38 PM
Guys, you know you aren't special because you backed the game, right? Everything you'll get are the bonuses listed on the Kickstarter pages, nothing more.

Also that car is the Gatecrasher, except it has a front end here.
No one has said that any one of us is 'special'. I'm just confused as to why these people get to play it first? If build is good enough to show to public, why not let everyone play it?

Think of it this way, you been waiting in line for 5 hours for a product you really want, and when the store is opened, bunch of people can just jump the queue in front of you. When you finally get to the shop, all they say is 'Sorry, we ran out, come back next week'. Howd you feel about that?



AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 05, 2018, 05:15:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNgf10l46R8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNgf10l46R8) WHERES THE UPDATE? WE WANT THE UPDATE! WHERE IS THE UPDATE RELEASE THE DAMN UPDATE WHERE IS THE UPDATE RELEASE THE DAMN UPDATE xDD
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: dbs213 on June 05, 2018, 05:39:07 PM
I really wish I could see FailRace's stream, but my timezone prevents me from doing that :|
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TPEHAK on June 05, 2018, 05:45:45 PM
No one has said that any one of us is 'special'. I'm just confused as to why these people get to play it first?

For game streaming purposes for game promotion. More people wait the game, more people excited, more hype around the game. If they will release the game for everyone simultaneously without promotion they will gain no more players rather already exist who already bought early access.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 05, 2018, 06:18:51 PM
Personally I'm not going to watch it and don't care that much that others get to play it first (I hate spoilers) :) but why not make this "event" on release day?
If people like what they see on June 7th and want to buy it instantly  - which they can, thanks to early access - they won't get what they saw, but an older version? (the version we have now). That's a bit weird.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: BrianUK on June 05, 2018, 06:43:46 PM
Personally I'm not going to watch it and don't care that much that others get to play it first (I hate spoilers) :) but why not make this "event" on release day?
If people like what they see on June 7th and want to buy it instantly  - which they can, thanks to early access - they won't get what they saw, but an older version? (the version we have now). That's a bit weird.

Those were roughly my thoughts - surely this stream was best done on release day so what you see on stream is what you get, rather than an older version.

All I can say is prepare your buttholes for claims of false advertising and being duped, especially with this setup.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 05, 2018, 07:33:48 PM
This problem won't happend if they said when is the game release (so 1 week later).
A lot of videos on youtube have a high amount of views, the higher is close to 40 000 000 but it's for the sneak peek and not the real game even if it was several years ago. So people maybe thought that Wreckfest previously called Next Car Game was only the sneak peek...
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Mopower on June 05, 2018, 11:38:37 PM
on thursday we can get a first impression of the final game. cant wait for the livestream!
So bunch of random youtubers get to play it before us die hard fans who been patiently waiting for over 5 years? ehhhh
PR thing I guess, get more attention to the game. still feels pretty sh***y.  >:(

Feels bad.

But at the same time, it might work.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Zebulon55 on June 06, 2018, 07:18:21 AM
The copy states that the YouTubers will be showing a "close to final" build. Maybe the community will be getting that build as well come June 7?
Don't see anything that says otherwise, so at least I can hope. 8^)

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Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 06, 2018, 07:40:26 AM
http://www.wreckfestgame.com/the-incredible-wreckfest-headliner-world-tour-2018-watch-your-stream-team-get-wrecked/


"Tune in to see how your Stream Team gets wrecked and grab some special loot afterwards! Watch Wreckfest on one of the following channels to see the outrageous gameplay of the close-to-final PC version for the first time, live!

It will also be the world’s first look at the exclusive reveal of crazy vehicles like the combine harvester, as well as many brand new cosmetic items that will bring a whole new dimension of insanity to proceedings."


We know last week a press version of Wreckfest got uploaded to Steam. So I'm thinking that the version that will be use for this event Thursday.

branches/press/timeupdated: 1527800381 (May 31, 2018 – 20:59:41 UTC) (+3)
branches/press/pwdrequired: 1
branches/press/description:
branches/press/buildid: 2823679
228381/encryptedmanifests/press/encrypted_size_2: DF55D8B54DADE22D455B1250552997C2
228381/encryptedmanifests/press/encrypted_gid_2: D54F9D9D5412F78741533E5D076F8AB4



Do agree with RIcky post that things could get confusing for those that watch the stream of an undated version of Wreckfest and then go buy Wreckfest and see beta version with no crop harvester.

Bugbear will need let people know watching the stream, this is game play of unreleased Wreckfest.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Zebulon55 on June 06, 2018, 09:52:03 AM
But if they went to the effort of compiling a close-to-final build for the press, would it be that difficult to make it generally available to the community after the streaming event?
If it's close-to-final, they must still be withholding some content or polishing for final.

Wishful thinking, too much to ask for, I guess.  :'(
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Callahan420 on June 06, 2018, 09:54:17 AM
No one has said that any one of us is 'special'. I'm just confused as to why these people get to play it first?

For game streaming purposes for game promotion. More people wait the game, more people excited, more hype around the game. If they will release the game for everyone simultaneously without promotion they will gain no more players rather already exist who already bought early access.

See promotion is the key word. If they let the players that already own the game play it some are streamers and would reach a wider audience. Even new screenshots posted on steam would help promote new features in the game.

Basically the more people playing the more it would get promoted.

But hey let's let some dumbass streamers play it first.

I still don't get the whole let's watch someone play a game thing instead of actually playing a game.

Anyway it is not my decision. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Zebulon55 on June 06, 2018, 10:00:58 AM

I still don't get the whole let's watch someone play a game thing instead of actually playing a game.


Definitely more fun playing than watching someone else playing and having fun. I only watch "let's play" vids if I'm considering buying the game. (So, not often.  ;D )
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 06, 2018, 12:17:41 PM
But if they went to the effort of compiling a close-to-final build for the press, would it be that difficult to make it generally available to the community after the streaming event?
That would be nice. fingers crossed.

IF people can buy the game for 40$ after watching the stream instead of maybe 60$ on release day, isn't Bugbear and THQ potentially loosing money if they keep the early access price open for another week? Maybe early access will close doors tomorrow and the game will be unavailable until release day? Only pre-order at full price? Or maybe it's all a strategy to push Wreckfest higher up on some bestseller list on Steam or something like that. THQ are the PR guys, maybe they know what they are doing.... watching football instead of attending at E3 seems very professional. ;D just kidding
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 06, 2018, 10:51:46 PM
streams are thursday (tomorrow). Bugbear could release the update friday so fans who saw the content and own the game could enjoy it.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 06, 2018, 11:01:38 PM
It would be nice if beta players got the release a week before, but I think Bugbear does not have it before ... :(
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Finsku on June 06, 2018, 11:36:17 PM
I created a Google Calendar link, which adds a event so you will not miss streams:
A long Google link (https://calendar.google.com/calendar/r/eventedit?text=The+Incredible+Wreckfest+Headliner+World+Tour+2018%E2%84%A2&dates=20180607T190000Z/20180607T220000Z&details=More+info:%0AThe%20Incredible%20Wreckfest%20Headliner%20World%20Tour%202018%E2%84%A2:%20Watch%20your%20Stream%20Team%20get%20wrecked!%0Ahttp://www.wreckfestgame.com/the-incredible-wreckfest-headliner-world-tour-2018-watch-your-stream-team-get-wrecked)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 07, 2018, 06:48:21 AM
I think Bugbear need all the time they can get to bug fix and polish Wreckfest before it get release.

As it is, I'm thinking game release is a bit rush for June 14. I hope release go well for Bugbear and the community next week.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 07, 2018, 11:09:58 AM
Janne, is the Bugbear livery going to be available for every vehicle?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 07, 2018, 11:17:26 AM
Bugbear livery, what's that?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 07, 2018, 11:34:47 AM
Bugbear livery, what's that?
I guess he remembers the American 1 Sneak Peek livery. Or maybe it was also AI livery at some point.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 07, 2018, 01:23:07 PM
Bugbear livery, what's that?
It was a perk for Team Member and higher tiers
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 07, 2018, 03:34:05 PM
Bugbear livery, what's that?
It was a perk for Team Member and higher tiers
I was thinking there was that for higher tiers in the old pre-order thing but I couldn't find picture of those.

Maybe Purple44 has some old pic showing that? I wasn't 100% sure did that exist until you also said there was that bonus.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TPEHAK on June 07, 2018, 04:38:38 PM
I can't see the list of US steam team.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 07, 2018, 04:43:13 PM
I can't see the list of US steam team.

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 07, 2018, 04:49:29 PM
Bugbear livery, what's that?
It was a perk for Team Member and higher tiers
I was thinking there was that for higher tiers in the old pre-order thing but I couldn't find picture of those.

Maybe Purple44 has some old pic showing that? I wasn't 100% sure did that exist until you also said there was that bonus.
(https://i.imgur.com/SowFqEF.png)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Caley19 on June 07, 2018, 05:04:07 PM
My boys, there's finaly a Launch trailer  :o  8) - check recent tweet
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 07, 2018, 05:05:40 PM
Bugbear livery, what's that?
It was a perk for Team Member and higher tiers
I was thinking there was that for higher tiers in the old pre-order thing but I couldn't find picture of those.

Maybe Purple44 has some old pic showing that? I wasn't 100% sure did that exist until you also said there was that bonus.
(https://i.imgur.com/SowFqEF.png)

That old skin was just a placeholder i assume? Since it was just blank with bugbear logo on the sides.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 07, 2018, 05:11:00 PM
I can't see the list of US steam team.



Yeah thanks for that info Sam. problem is, I do not see any cool Youtubers such as... Bay Area Buggs, Jeff Favignano, Neilogical, & GrayStillPlays  :( Only Guy I will be watching is Failrace, who is a really cool guy!
unfortunately I have not heard of any of these youtubers in the U.S. Region! ahhh what ever lol
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 07, 2018, 05:15:50 PM
Wreckfest launch trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbsDiIuI7KQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbsDiIuI7KQ)

and the Combine harvester
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 07, 2018, 05:43:15 PM
Yeah thanks for that info Sam. problem is, I do not see any cool Youtubers such as... Bay Area Buggs, Jeff Favignano, Neilogical, & GrayStillPlays  :( Only Guy I will be watching is Failrace, who is a really cool guy!
unfortunately I have not heard of any of these youtubers in the U.S. Region! ahhh what ever lol
I am the same. But i only really watch people stream if i am looking for gameplay of a game i am considering buying. So i wouldnt know either way ;)
I agree Failrace makes some good videos though,ive watched the videos where he plays the banger mod. Interesting as a content creator to see how someone plays your creation, with no real background info.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 07, 2018, 05:55:29 PM
TRAILER LOOKS SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) CANT WAIT


WANNA PLAY IT NOW!!! PLEAAAAASEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 07, 2018, 06:13:58 PM
The new trailer is so good, clearly better than the one for the E3 2017. Maybe a second trailer coming ?  8)
Between, this house which is destroy maybe means new tracks style like farm/cornfield ?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 07, 2018, 06:22:04 PM
The new trailer is so good, clearly better than the one for the E3 2017. Maybe a second trailer coming ?  8)
Between, this house which is destroy maybe means new tracks style like farm/cornfield ?
I would love it if Farm tracks came into the game. I loved them in FlatOut 2 and i would love them again.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 07, 2018, 06:32:22 PM
The new trailer is so good, clearly better than the one for the E3 2017. Maybe a second trailer coming ?  8)
Between, this house which is destroy maybe means new tracks style like farm/cornfield ?
I would love it if Farm tracks came into the game. I loved them in FlatOut 2 and i would love them again.
Look like atleast some sort farm derby arena coming. Born and raised in the fields it just feels right. Think the town folk too understand the beauty of the countryside
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 07, 2018, 07:03:44 PM
The new trailer is so good, clearly better than the one for the E3 2017. Maybe a second trailer coming ?  8)
Between, this house which is destroy maybe means new tracks style like farm/cornfield ?
I would love it if Farm tracks came into the game. I loved them in FlatOut 2 and i would love them again.
Look like atleast some sort farm derby arena coming. Born and raised in the fields it just feels right. Think the town folk too understand the beauty of the countryside

tonza where did you see farm arena? i dont see anything :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 07, 2018, 07:07:18 PM

Yeah thanks for that info Sam. problem is, I do not see any cool Youtubers such as... Bay Area Buggs, Jeff Favignano, Neilogical, & GrayStillPlays  :( Only Guy I will be watching is Failrace, who is a really cool guy!
unfortunately I have not heard of any of these youtubers in the U.S. Region! ahhh what ever lol


Yep I've no idea about most of the streamers/youtubers. Those streamers could likely bring more new people in and not just stream full of people who already own the game. Though I follow only very few popular streamers, usually I tune in streams that have less than 30 people. But I can say that I watch streams more than play myself :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Damikratos on June 07, 2018, 08:17:17 PM
I am a kickstarter supporter since 11/25/2013, I am happy that we are reaching this goal, congratulations guys!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 07, 2018, 08:59:35 PM
And the show is almost on!

Here is quick links for to watch it  :D

1 minute left ahhhh lol

https://steamcommunity.com/games/228380/announcements/detail/1661145982853375017
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 07, 2018, 09:14:02 PM
Jeezes, there should be a minimum requirement that the ones in the event knows a little bit about the game. Some didn't even understand the concept on how to change cars / parts and ready up. Just saying ...

But gamewise it looks good. Fun cars and a great updated UI :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 07, 2018, 09:20:08 PM
I see someone is using a School Bus.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 07, 2018, 09:23:22 PM
Jeezes, there should be a minimum requirement that the ones in the event knows a little bit about the game. Some didn't even understand the concept on how to change cars / parts and ready up. Just saying ...

But gamewise it looks good. Fun cars and a great updated UI :D
You don't even need to know anything about the game, just pay tiniest bit of attention but apparently some of these people can't...

game looks great but feel like stranded on an island... water all around you but cant drink it.. game right in front of your eyes and cant play it..
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 07, 2018, 09:40:49 PM
Hope they show the new Challenge mode.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TheEngiGuy on June 07, 2018, 09:41:57 PM
Jeezes, there should be a minimum requirement that the ones in the event knows a little bit about the game. Some didn't even understand the concept on how to change cars / parts and ready up. Just saying ...

But gamewise it looks good. Fun cars and a great updated UI :D

I agree, but at the same time, I can say it's not much intuitive.

Anyway, school buses are F**** awesome! Thanks, Bugbear. Finally I can do bus derbies and races like back in the mid-2000's with Eve of Destruction.
Also, more modding support for big vehicles like trucks, it seems.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Konan on June 07, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
Jeezes, there should be a minimum requirement that the ones in the event knows a little bit about the game. Some didn't even understand the concept on how to change cars / parts and ready up. Just saying ...

But gamewise it looks good. Fun cars and a great updated UI :D

I agree, but at the same time, I can say it's not much intuitive.

Anyway, school buses are F**** awesome! Thanks, Bugbear. Finally I can do bus derbies and races like back in the mid-2000's with Eve of Destruction.
Also, more modding support for big vehicles like trucks, it seems.

That quote just gave me the chills...Eve of Destruction is the reason why i signed up in the first place!
Finally that game seems to have a worthy successor! Now i REALLY can't wait for the console version to drop.
Thanks BugBear!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 07, 2018, 10:19:42 PM
bugbear, please give the tracks a better and unique name.
while selecting a car in viewer mode, please show the names instead of numbers.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: KingOfTheCakes on June 07, 2018, 10:41:21 PM
Probably gonna get hate for this, but from watching two of the streams so far, it seems like the problems that have been in the game for ages are still present with a week away:
- Clipping/getting stuck through the floor or walls.
- Getting checkpoint cuts after going slightly off track in areas where you can't gain an advantage.
- Reset can still be spammed with no cooldown and can reset on immediate impact.
- Cars rolling over a small tap on occasions. (Even happens to the buses apparently :O)
- FWD still has infinite grip.
- Unable to upgrade cars in lobbies.
- Chase camera is still awful.

I appreciate the new content of course, but the game play still needs work. it still seems to be too early for a final release from what I'm seeing.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 07, 2018, 10:42:18 PM
what iam seeing so far is dissapointing....gonna uninstall the game....sorry
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 07, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
the trailer ROCKS but game SUCKS lol sorry my oppinion
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 07, 2018, 10:53:16 PM
the trailer ROCKS but game SUCKS lol sorry my oppinion
whats your problem with the game?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 07, 2018, 10:59:47 PM
not much content..... this is hilarious
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 07, 2018, 11:09:44 PM
FailRace wins the European championship
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: BenDover on June 07, 2018, 11:12:54 PM
New ppl will love the game for a while untill they found the problems we know. That still arent fixed.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 07, 2018, 11:17:55 PM
This is so disappointing ... almost nothing has been fixed ... no new content such as tracks and cars (special cars are utter nonsense) ... WOW  :-X
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 07, 2018, 11:24:40 PM
To their defence they have added a fair amount of cars. Also, the fields derby arena is new.
Maybe they are holding back on showing new tracks before release? And then again we have the whole challenge mode.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 07, 2018, 11:34:40 PM
To their defence they have added a fair amount of cars. Also, the fields derby arena is new.
Maybe they are holding back on showing new tracks before release? And then again we have the whole challenge mode.

I agree! and I believe they are withholding the best (unseen tracks, challenge) for last to surprise us  :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 08, 2018, 12:07:46 AM
Does anyone know if the the stream really is the FINISH version today? Maybe a developer would like to comment on this?  :'(
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 08, 2018, 12:12:56 AM
fuck this gay game ...bullshit game.

nothing against you janne youre the best person ive ever meet.. cool dude :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest103487 on June 08, 2018, 12:13:34 AM
but would loved to get my money back :) for this piece of shit
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: HansPremium on June 08, 2018, 12:38:59 AM
lel how old are u vollmer
i wonder that everyone is so suprised, what did you expect
there are no gamebreaking issues so they invested the time to make the challenge mode and some vehicles that get attention to the game instead of fixing fwd grip or smth
and i see some ppl expected to see like 10 new tracks and cars ? the survey version was basically rounded up in core content im suprised they actually added so much new stuff in that short amount of time
i think bb and thq they made the right decisions, its more casual friendly as it is now compared to the suggestions of most of the forum members here
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TheEngiGuy on June 08, 2018, 12:46:27 AM
I'm not denying the game still has issues and room for improvements, but... I want to remind you guys that Assetto Corsa at launch, despite being a subpar sim, was still regarded as the milestone of the genre. People just appreciated what they had with it.

If you enjoyed Wreckfest during Early Access but say that it's a bad game now because "full release didn't meet your expectations" is just exaggerating, imho.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 08, 2018, 01:54:55 AM
some ui optimizations:

i really like the new loading screen. but please not just one wallpaper! add a few more. Please also add a new loading animation that fits in the new design.
(https://img3.picload.org/image/doiapril/2018-06-071_li.jpg)

please move the event/track name to the top left, to the right of "results". also adjust the height of the chat area to the result list. Maybe a bit more padding for the chat area?
(https://img3.picload.org/image/doiapadr/2018-06-072_li.jpg)

please decide whether the list is displayed on the left, as in the previous screenshot, or in the middle, as here.
(https://img3.picload.org/image/doiapada/2018-06-073.png)

please move the server name to the top left, to the right of "lobby". also replace the fuzzy old class symbol with the respective letter and adjust the colors if necessary (A class: the red of "not ready", B class: the gold from the menu, C class: the green of "ready", D class: a slightly different blue). Also, the icons for ready and not ready should be adjusted. i added a tick in the last line which would fit. You could also simply remove the symbol, since "ready", "not ready" and "change car" may be enough. In the chat area I think that some padding would be quite good. and maybe it would also be cool if you could move the font, that display the time til the race starts, a little to the left, so that it is right-aligned with the level display, and make it a little bit smaller.
(https://img3.picload.org/image/doiaprpr/2018-06-07_li.jpg)

These are just a few thoughts about the UI I have seen so far. Btw I love the new goldish color for highlights in the menu. You could also replace all orange highlights with the new gold color ;) And the new font fits a lot better with the game!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest100380 on June 08, 2018, 03:41:58 AM
Who the hell picked these morons to be the streamers?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TPEHAK on June 08, 2018, 05:40:12 AM
I think the game is awesome as is right now. But the loading screen animated icon could be fixed, that black square background looks unfinished. There should not be background and the icon itself should be outlined with black line to be visible on any color background

(https://img3.picload.org/image/doiapril/2018-06-071_li.jpg)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 08, 2018, 07:12:01 AM
Bugbear livery, what's that?
It was a perk for Team Member and higher tiers
I was thinking there was that for higher tiers in the old pre-order thing but I couldn't find picture of those.

Maybe Purple44 has some old pic showing that? I wasn't 100% sure did that exist until you also said there was that bonus.
(https://i.imgur.com/SowFqEF.png)

That old skin was just a placeholder i assume? Since it was just blank with bugbear logo on the sides.

I done forget that was a Team bonus. I got Team for the team badge and to get my name "Purple44" in the classify section.

http://web.archive.org/web/20141028232343/http://nextcargame.com/pre-order/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20141028232343/http://nextcargame.com/pre-order/)


Work 11 hours today, so I behind reading the forums. It cherry season.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 08, 2018, 08:00:08 AM
I want to know how I can get my game to look as good as the SpeedBird in the trailer?? It look awesome!!!  :D :D

(http://www.lay-zmattress.com/flatout2/purple44/Next%20Car%20Game%202018/launch-trailer-pic.jpg)

How come there no official close up screenshot of this car at Bugbear twitter, or Bugbear or THQ facebook page?



- Chase camera is still awful.


Ya I agree, don't understand why Bugbear like to use a low far chase camera in Wreckfest and in Flatout 2. :(

Making custom cam files for each car. (http://community.bugbeargames.com/index.php/topic,8770.0.html)

stock chase cam
(http://www.lay-zmattress.com/flatout2/purple44/Next%20Car%20Game%202016/custom%20cams/cam-before-mus4.jpg)

custom chase cam
(http://www.lay-zmattress.com/flatout2/purple44/Next%20Car%20Game%202016/custom%20cams/cam-after-mus4.jpg)

***************************

What a Doppeldecker? Is that the Bus?

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: dbs213 on June 08, 2018, 08:05:37 AM
What a Doppeldecker? Is that the Bus?

You mean Double-decker right? It's the Supra looking car with a Beetle (YAY!) on top of it.

Anyway, that headliner stream was pretty good, aside from all the ones that purposely decided to go the other way and be clueless idiots. Seeing Jimmy Broadbent and FailRace competing against each other is a thing I'll never forget.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 08, 2018, 09:31:03 AM
the special vehicles seem to be the Bus, the Double Decker (supra with an annoying bug in it's roof), and the Combine Harvester. I saw a 4th vehicle but I forgot the name.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 08, 2018, 09:41:20 AM
the special vehicles seem to be the Bus, the Double Decker (supra with an annoying bug in it's roof), and the Combine Harvester. I saw a 4th vehicle but I forgot the name.
there was the Supervan, but not sure if it in the special vehicle category.  seem pretty innocent

Overall love the special vehicles, especially the bus. Bring back memories of the crazy school bus in flatout 2 & ultimate carnage
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 08, 2018, 10:10:13 AM
I think the game is awesome as is right now. But the loading screen animated icon could be fixed, that black square background looks unfinished. There should not be background and the icon itself should be outlined with black line to be visible on any color background

(https://img3.picload.org/image/doiapril/2018-06-071_li.jpg)
no black outline. there is a dark background ;)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 08, 2018, 10:20:27 AM
It was a perk for Team Member and higher tiers.

Oh yes, that one - almost forgot its existence. It will be for one car only.
Anyway, that headliner stream was pretty good, aside from all the ones that purposely decided to go the other way and be clueless idiots. Seeing Jimmy Broadbent and FailRace competing against each other is a thing I'll never forget.

Absolutely! I was watching the FailRace stream and following these two going against each was a blast.

I love proper racing but the people wrecking others with busses made for an interesting gameplay too, especially if there were just one or two of these "behemoths" on the track at the same time.
Chase camera is still awful.

There is a third chase camera now, up higher and further back.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: SkinnierSteve on June 08, 2018, 10:44:43 AM
Please tell me in realistic damage mode the health bar is gone, and mechanical damage is the cause of death instead. Also, I watched failrace and jimmy at the same time, lol. Enjoyed it, but I started watching too late, so missed a lot. The new crazy vehicles look interesting.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 08, 2018, 11:31:07 AM
From the sounds of it I think the bus and combine alone will completely change the whole theory of "clean racing" and in turn
change peoples attitudes about how much they will defend or advocate for "clean races". As a preferential clean racer myself, I do
believe being able to see a huge bus coming up the track will make it a piece of cake to avoid. It will also make a nice "pick" when
battling for position or other possible tactical actions.

I have always felt winning races in this game includes being able to avoid, dodge or destroy my way to the win. It's what makes Wreckfest different than all the others.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 08, 2018, 11:54:05 AM
janne, is it possible to reset the reviews on steam? because there are many negative reviews, because during the early access phase no update came for a long time. but now the game is (will be) released and I think it deserves a new start.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 08, 2018, 11:56:33 AM
Clipping/getting stuck through the floor or walls.

Wanted to pick up this one to try and explain the situation, I believe it has been discussed a couple of times before but not everyone probably saw it or remembers anymore.

There are two reasons for the cars clipping through objects and/or others but in principle, it's because the refresh rate of the physics is not high enough so that the physics objects "have time" to clip each other between the refresh states. Obviously the issue could be avoided easily by increasing the refresh rate but as you can imagine that will increase the CPU load and cause a considerable framerate hit, and I hope that we all agree that it is not really feasible seeing as the game's physics engine is already pretty demanding especially with many cars. Nothing is free, especially not the pretty advanced vehicle and deformation physics our engine has, and to get rid of clipping we would have to sacrifice something. Ultimately we feel like the occasional clipping is worth it and doesn't detract from the gameplay experience significantly.

In multiplayer, network lag will obviously also cause clipping but it's a different story.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 08, 2018, 11:58:26 AM
janne, is it possible to reset the reviews on steam? because there are many negative reviews, because during the early access phase no update came for a long time. but now the game is (will be) released and I think it deserves a new start.

No, I don't think it's possible, not by us anyway. I don't remember it happening on any Early Access titles but I might be wrong?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 08, 2018, 12:03:52 PM
Think steam resets the scores when game is released.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 08, 2018, 12:06:04 PM
Will new(!) tracks come, Jannes? Please answer me, I can handle the truth ...
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 08, 2018, 12:12:59 PM
Apart from the Country Field and the resurrected classic Speedway 2 Demolition Arena no new tracks are going be in the final release.

We really want to have everything we have now in a tip-top shape for the final release so we've had our hands full in polishing and finalizing them, performance-wise too.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 08, 2018, 12:16:21 PM
Apart from the Country Field and the resurrected classic Speedway 2 Demolition Arena no new tracks are going be in the final release.

We really want to have everything we have now in a tip-top shape for the final release so we've had our hands full in polishing and finalizing them, performance-wise too.
Okay, sad, but I understand that. In the stream yesterday I still saw problems with a few crash barriers. For many, collision physics is very unrealistic. Is this still fixed? And is the fire made more realistic in living cars? I am looking forward to an answer! Thank you.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 08, 2018, 12:19:13 PM
Examples of the problems?

The fire effect remains the same, it's a known issue but it's a low-priority item.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 08, 2018, 12:27:10 PM
janne, is it possible to implement my thoughts about the UI in the final game? or is the UI already final and no more work is being done on it?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 08, 2018, 12:34:01 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, we'll do what we have time for (meaning that we'll keep on working on the UI right until the release).

Those screens in question are still in a work-in-progress state but you made many good points, pretty much echoing our plans too.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 08, 2018, 12:38:03 PM
Examples of the problems?

The fire effect remains the same, it's a known issue but it's a low-priority item.
For Example this picture in attachment. Touch a little bit the left barrier, you spin completely.
The same on the "brown barriers", i don't know the trackname because i am cant look a this right now.

Hmm, the fire is important for me, better game feeling …
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 08, 2018, 12:40:46 PM
The death fire is fine imo, but the critical health one is a bit, wip I guess. The good thing about wreck fire is that it is a visual indicator on who is wrecked and who is not, less UI clutter. In addition, to us oldies it is nostalgic effect by several reasons.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 08, 2018, 12:42:40 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, we'll do what we have time for (meaning that we'll keep on working on the UI right until the release).

Those screens in question are still in a work-in-progress state but you made many good points, pretty much echoing our plans too.
Yes I like the new UI. But a few things are unattractive. Another user yesterday showed a lot of screenshots in this discussion and suggested improvements. I support these changes.

In another update it was said that I see in the multiplayer lobby whether realistic damage or normal damage is set. I never discovered that. Where do I see that?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 08, 2018, 12:48:02 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, we'll do what we have time for (meaning that we'll keep on working on the UI right until the release).

Those screens in question are still in a work-in-progress state but you made many good points, pretty much echoing our plans too.

Release sounds to me as if after the release of the development is stopped. is that so? If everything does not fit well after the launch, will it continue to work or will you work towards 100% on the console release?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Zeron on June 08, 2018, 12:49:37 PM
https://steamcommunity.com/app/228380/discussions/0/1696049513767226776/?tscn=1528415629
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FalconXY on June 08, 2018, 12:54:24 PM
Enjoyed it, but I started watching too late, so missed a lot.

I missed the first hour and watched the stream till the end and then I clicked on the time line to the start of the stream and watched it from the beginning.  :D
Maybe you can find the stream as a normal video now and watch all the fun.

Please tell me in realistic damage mode the health bar is gone, and mechanical damage is the cause of death instead.

Yes that's my wish too for this game but will likely not happen.  ::)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FalconXY on June 08, 2018, 01:00:15 PM
Release sounds to me as if after the release of the development is stopped. is that so? If everything does not fit well after the launch, will it continue to work or will you work towards 100% on the console release?

I would like to know that too. Will there be any DLC packs for more game modes ?
The game is fine now but it could be 100x better with more fun game modes like we have told them many times now.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 08, 2018, 01:06:57 PM
Clipping/getting stuck through the floor or walls.

Wanted to pick up this one to try and explain the situation, I believe it has been discussed a couple of times before but not everyone probably saw it or remembers anymore.

There are two reasons for the cars clipping through objects and/or others but in principle, it's because the refresh rate of the physics is not high enough so that the physics objects "have time" to clip each other between the refresh states. Obviously the issue could be avoided easily by increasing the refresh rate but as you can imagine that will increase the CPU load and cause a considerable framerate hit, and I hope that we all agree that it is not really feasible seeing as the game's physics engine is already pretty demanding especially with many cars. Nothing is free, especially not the pretty advanced vehicle and deformation physics our engine has, and to get rid of clipping we would have to sacrifice something. Ultimately we feel like the occasional clipping is worth it and doesn't detract from the gameplay experience significantly.

In multiplayer, network lag will obviously also cause clipping but it's a different story.

maybe you could implement a setting for this :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 08, 2018, 01:11:54 PM
While it sounds like a good plan, I don't think that would be possible. People having different physics calculations, and all bugs that could introduce. But if that is feasible to do I would love such an option ;)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 08, 2018, 01:21:10 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, we'll do what we have time for (meaning that we'll keep on working on the UI right until the release).

Those screens in question are still in a work-in-progress state but you made many good points, pretty much echoing our plans too.
Yes I like the new UI. But a few things are unattractive. Another user yesterday showed a lot of screenshots in this discussion and suggested improvements. I support these changes.

In another update it was said that I see in the multiplayer lobby whether realistic damage or normal damage is set. I never discovered that. Where do I see that?

yes these were my points yesterday ;) hopefully they'll change these things and make the UI more consistent!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 08, 2018, 01:36:39 PM
What's up with the pricing? "(...) after the release the new price will be 44,99 € / 44,99 $ / 38,99 £." ...   Last time I checked, 44.99 euro were about 53 dollar and 44,99$ are about 38 €. Is it going to be region locked? Or can I potentially buy stuff for my european version in dollar? (Deluxe Upgrade or future DLC for example)  ???
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FalconXY on June 08, 2018, 01:41:36 PM
What's up with the pricing? "(...) after the release the new price will be 44,99 € / 44,99 $ / 38,99 £." ...   Last time I checked, 44.99 euro were about 53 dollar and 44,99$ are about 38 €. Is it going to be region locked? Or can I potentially buy stuff for my european version in dollar? (Deluxe Upgrade or future DLC for example)  ???

That's always the same shit in Europe. The tax is added to the lower US$ price and then you have the Euro price.  ;)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 08, 2018, 02:25:44 PM
While it sounds like a good plan, I don't think that would be possible. People having different physics calculations, and all bugs that could introduce. But if that is feasible to do I would love such an option ;)

Yep. Only if server could force clients to have the same setting, it could be possible. But that would make it that some people having bad performance on certain servers. That could cause all kind of reports.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: simosimo on June 08, 2018, 02:47:17 PM
Please name your tracks rather than Tarmac 1,2, Sandpit 1 ,2 etc It looks a bit bush league at this stage.

It will help new people identify tracks. For instance I like one of the tarmac tracks, but I can never remember what one. It has dirt and tarmac, and a long start/finish line with a large watch tower - Maybe Tarmac 1?

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: KingOfTheCakes on June 08, 2018, 03:29:13 PM
In case anybody missed it, here is one of the streams I liked. This is Jimmy Broadbent's stream, and as you'll see he experiences most of the problems I mentioned before throughout:

https://youtu.be/ju2-f1mH_P0?list=LLiNHOnr_qV4_paT-xPh1wrA&t=780
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: KingOfTheCakes on June 08, 2018, 03:30:49 PM
Please name your tracks rather than Tarmac 1,2, Sandpit 1 ,2 etc It looks a bit bush league at this stage.

It will help new people identify tracks. For instance I like one of the tarmac tracks, but I can never remember what one. It has dirt and tarmac, and a long start/finish line with a large watch tower - Maybe Tarmac 1?

I've had the game for about 5 years now and still get them confused! haha
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 08, 2018, 03:37:10 PM
Chase camera is still awful.

There is a third chase camera now, up higher and further back.

Great to hear Janne.  :)


Apart from the Country Field and the resurrected classic Speedway 2 Demolition Arena no new tracks are going be in the final release.

We really want to have everything we have now in a tip-top shape for the final release so we've had our hands full in polishing and finalizing them, performance-wise too.


No Mixed 6, Tarmac 4?   :o
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 08, 2018, 04:11:49 PM
And I still hold my breath, hope and pray that we get these cool things back!

Mad Dog, Heavy Hitter, and Speeder Awards (High Lights)!!!

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2wda80y.jpg)

Also Car Stats! (Info)!!! Please Bugbear... really miss these things.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/b67q02.jpg)

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 08, 2018, 04:25:16 PM
And I still hold my breath, hope and pray that we get these cool things back!

Mad Dog, Heavy Hitter, and Speeder Awards (High Lights)!!!

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2wda80y.jpg)

Also Car Stats! (Info)!!! Please Bugbear... really miss these things.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/b67q02.jpg)

Mentioned this to Janne last night. Apparently heavy hitter is still in game,but maybe its only active on derby mode. Which doesn't seem to get used to much,so probably why it gets asked to be brought back a lot (everyone thinking its removed entirely). Hopefully that can return to racing gamemodes also.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 08, 2018, 05:49:36 PM
another small improvement suggestion for the UI:
if you hover over a car in the car selection menu (garage and multiplayer), the respective improvement or deterioration compared to the currently selected car should be shown in the statistics/status bar in green and red, as it was before in a previous version. Also, the class name/number should be shown in the small thumbnail of each car like it is in the market.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 08, 2018, 06:02:07 PM
fuck this gay game ...bullshit game.

nothing against you janne youre the best person ive ever meet.. cool dude :)

Wow I have never seen so many dislikes on a Bugbear forum post than yours. truly unbelievable. no wonder I initially blocked you on Steam. I thought you was a cool guy for a while, until I seen your relentless bashing against Bugbear as of late. wtf is wrong with you? retarded? hmm good question. and about the Gay remarks... I see you bring up that word often... what's up with that? are you perhaps gay yourself?
I noticed on some of your previous postings with youtube links, that the youtube vids are very gay in nature. we don't need that crap here! what is wrong with you? ahhh never mind, I give up. and do not care what you do for now on. yes you have lost my respect. do you even understand how many hours Bugbear has been involved with our game? and how many years they have been debugging issues, to make us happy?

Thought you were cool at first, but your ugly self centered selfish persona is more than I can take. yes we are done. and if you think this is a personal attack, than so be it. Please do not bash on these awesome developers further more! Thank You
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 08, 2018, 06:33:58 PM
And I still hold my breath, hope and pray that we get these cool things back!

Mad Dog, Heavy Hitter, and Speeder Awards (High Lights)!!!

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2wda80y.jpg)

Also Car Stats! (Info)!!! Please Bugbear... really miss these things.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/b67q02.jpg)

I miss the Mad Dog, Heavy Hitter, and Speeder Awards Highlights so much!!! Bring this back.  :'(

In this version as in the screenshot, you still had a goal to win. It's nice to have a takedown in the race and be honored if there are many or most of them. Even the one who crashed the most is interesting. The best lap is still there, that's very good! But now you only do everything for credits (money in the game), that's boring. It would be more irritating if you get an appraisal and then maybe even saved and goes into the game statistics ... Is there any info? Please also answer if that does not come in again. :(
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 08, 2018, 06:45:27 PM
Oh no, i'm so disapointed there will be no new tracks for the final released... I was expecting a lot of new tracks because we have only 1 gravel but 7 mixed with the 6th missing, new tarmac/sandpit and track style etc because we didn't have any new tracks since a long time :-\
I understand you were at 1000% in your game and it is awesome but for a final release I wanted to be surprise with new tracks but new cars/customisation are coming so it balance it.
I'm not bashing you BugBear, I respect you and your work because you are independant and I love your old game (Flatout1/2) and Wreckfest and i will keep playing wreckfest like I did since 4 years now !

So my question is will you add new tracks/content with a futur free update/DLC ?

I know the game isn't released but it's a big question  :P
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 08, 2018, 07:33:56 PM
if Mad Dog, Speeder, and Heavy Hitter come back, I also want the Bulldozer one to come back from Flatout 2 and UC. most objects ran over.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 09, 2018, 01:19:10 AM
sorry that I mention the UI so often. But as you can see in this video, there are many placeholders in the UI. Hopefully you'll replace it with a final UI. Please give us a finished game on Thursday, this also applies to the UI!

https://youtu.be/4rEINGXs87M
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: PsychOXRat on June 09, 2018, 03:24:57 AM
I have to say that, if what I've seen is most of the finished game, it still feels like the game needs another month or so in the oven to sort out problems. I was honestly hoping for a few new actual tracks (where's Mixed 6?! Or the ones mentioned in the localisation files such as Ahvenisto?) as well as a couple more "ordinary" vehicles to give us long time players some new places and cars to learn that we haven't been playing the past 4 years. I assume we haven't seen the backer/deluxe edition vehicle in the stream because I'd much rather have a usable vehicle as that than one of the massive vehicles/Supervan, and would be disappointed if that was the case.

Onto some things that I became aware of from the stream:
1: Resets are really easy to abuse. They should have a countdown of something like 3 to 10 seconds after pressing the reset button so you can't cheat your way out of collisions in a DD by resetting immediately after stopping. The reset would cancel if the vehicle was massively moved during the countdown.
2: The combine is a one hit kill if you rear end it?! How did this never get found in testing.
3: It's a shame to see years old bugs still in the game (cars glitching through each other etc)

You'll notice I haven't said anything "nice" so far, but that's because I haven't been able to personally test the build and I'd rather give feedback on what to improve before launch.
But I will say that it's good to see the game finally hitting a release deadline, even if my relationship with the devs turned sour in the past few months
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 09, 2018, 04:29:55 AM
2: The combine is a one hit kill if you rear end it?! How did this never get found in testing.
It works like Lawnmower so it's one hit anywhere if there's enough momentum. They could increase the needed momentum for one hit kill. So I assume working as intended. Of course they could make them work like ordinary vehicles.

3: It's a shame to see years old bugs still in the game (cars glitching through each other etc)
Was answered couple pages back and the answer is still the same as it has been before:
http://community.bugbeargames.com/index.php/topic,11037.msg106132.html#msg106132

Wanted to pick up this one to try and explain the situation, I believe it has been discussed a couple of times before but not everyone probably saw it or remembers anymore.

There are two reasons for the cars clipping through objects and/or others but in principle, it's because the refresh rate of the physics is not high enough so that the physics objects "have time" to clip each other between the refresh states. Obviously the issue could be avoided easily by increasing the refresh rate but as you can imagine that will increase the CPU load and cause a considerable framerate hit, and I hope that we all agree that it is not really feasible seeing as the game's physics engine is already pretty demanding especially with many cars. Nothing is free, especially not the pretty advanced vehicle and deformation physics our engine has, and to get rid of clipping we would have to sacrifice something. Ultimately we feel like the occasional clipping is worth it and doesn't detract from the gameplay experience significantly.

In multiplayer, network lag will obviously also cause clipping but it's a different story.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 09, 2018, 05:18:36 AM
I just watch Jimmy's stream of the EU tournament and at end of derby I did not see "most damage dealt". Unless it was earn by someone off the list. Did it get removed in final version of Wreckfest??

I sure hope not!




Onto some things that I became aware of from the stream:
1: Resets are really easy to abuse. They should have a countdown of something like 3 to 10 seconds after pressing the reset button so you can't cheat your way out of collisions in a DD by resetting immediately after stopping. The reset would cancel if the vehicle was massively moved during the countdown.


Been trying get Bugbear to do a 5 sec delay after you get a reset as an online option, so resets don't get abuse to much.  :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: dbs213 on June 09, 2018, 10:15:17 AM
Looking at Calamann's link to the final build's gameplay I noticed that the driver and steering wheel still deform with the car. I'm a little bit disappointed that this hasn't been dealt with as cockpit cam is only usable when your car doesn't look like a scrap heap.

Also I'm a bit irked by how the tracks still don't have proper names :|
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 09, 2018, 01:15:53 PM
I would also like to see a delay on reset, so that you have a small disadvantage. but the option to disable reset (in multiplayer) should no longer be available, because it is very frustrating when you get stuck somewhere or lie on the roof and you can't reset your car.

and hopefully the tracks will get real or better names. maybe we can write some suggestions in the forum, because I think bugbear has something else to do at the moment than thinking about track names.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 09, 2018, 02:44:25 PM
Janne, will it be easier to create a server in the final version? I mean without opening ports? i don't think every player is familiar with it, and would appreciate it very much if you just had to click a button to create a server.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Finsku on June 09, 2018, 02:48:21 PM
Janne, will it be easier to create a server in the final version? I mean without opening ports? i don't think every player is familiar with it, and would appreciate it very much if you just had to click a button to create a server.

Every game has the same "problem" with ports. Games cannot fix port problem itself. It doesn't need you open only your firewall ports, there could be a router which also needs ports opened and pc programs can't do anything about it.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 09, 2018, 02:52:05 PM
Janne, will it be easier to create a server in the final version? I mean without opening ports? i don't think every player is familiar with it, and would appreciate it very much if you just had to click a button to create a server.

Every game has the same "problem" with ports. Games cannot fix port problem itself. It doesn't need you open only your firewall ports, there could be a router which also needs ports opened and pc programs can't do anything about it.
i don't know much about this topic. but i remember Rocket League. you can create a party without opening ports.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 09, 2018, 02:54:27 PM
what do you guys think about colors in server names. I personally dont like them. I would appreciate if all server names were simply white.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Andy Rotten on June 09, 2018, 06:44:57 PM
I buy a normal version but i want all Digital Deluxe Edition features, i just can't pay the diference? or i have to pay for the entire DD Edition :( ?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: KingOfTheCakes on June 09, 2018, 06:51:46 PM
sorry that I mention the UI so often. But as you can see in this video, there are many placeholders in the UI. Hopefully you'll replace it with a final UI. Please give us a finished game on Thursday, this also applies to the UI!

https://youtu.be/4rEINGXs87M

I really wish the Expert AI were actually upgraded properly so they're competitive. Watching that, all I can see is that one AI driver has a fast C class. :/ Career felt very grindy because of things like this. Granted when I first played the game it was hard to get a win but only because i couldn't upgrade, but once you get past that, it's always an easy win.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 09, 2018, 06:59:47 PM
I buy a normal version but i want all Digital Deluxe Edition features, i just can't pay the diference? or i have to pay for the entire DD Edition :( ?
You can upgrade your version on steam to the deluxe version
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 09, 2018, 07:32:07 PM
Is there not going to be more music? +music playing during racing
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: NicoP on June 09, 2018, 08:16:04 PM
sorry that I mention the UI so often. But as you can see in this video, there are many placeholders in the UI. Hopefully you'll replace it with a final UI. Please give us a finished game on Thursday, this also applies to the UI!

https://youtu.be/4rEINGXs87M

I really wish the Expert AI were actually upgraded properly so they're competitive. Watching that, all I can see is that one AI driver has a fast C class. :/ Career felt very grindy because of things like this. Granted when I first played the game it was hard to get a win but only because i couldn't upgrade, but once you get past that, it's always an easy win.

Yes :( It is so sad! Expert AI are so bad and it is way too easy to win!!! Bugbear failled so much about this :s I hope they will get the same retrospection from the console so they change that, because it is very a big thing
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TheEngiGuy on June 09, 2018, 08:23:16 PM
I don't know how things are in real life banger racing, but considering the fact that the player in the game can access the same event with and without upgrades in a certain class, I'd say AI bots should be then divided into groups: the ones that have little to no upgrades (so even if the player doesn't have money to upgrade his car, he could still battle it out with those drivers and earn some progression points/credits instead of failing everytime) and the ones who have more upgrades (so the player with his upgraded car can compete against them and possibly finish first).
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: VX97 on June 09, 2018, 10:43:47 PM
I just can't stop watching my name in AI driver. So this sort of confirms that AI names will be your Steam names and in credits there will be real life name?  :)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/365769521362894848/455046078065016842/vx.jpg)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 10, 2018, 12:14:04 AM
Yeah for the guys that pay a bit more, this is a real cool perk! but want you to know, there are a bunch of peeps that use their own modified AI list. including me. but it is still a very cool feature.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Andy Rotten on June 10, 2018, 01:45:49 AM

You can upgrade your version on steam to the deluxe version
[/quote]

I can't, did you know how to do it?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 10, 2018, 03:05:09 AM

Quote
You can upgrade your version on steam to the deluxe version

I can't, did you know how to do it?

You don't see this offer on your Steam Wreckfest page?

Buy Wreckfest - Digital Deluxe Edition Upgrade   $12.99

Digital Deluxe upgrade for owners of Next Car Game: Wreckfest 
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Andy Rotten on June 10, 2018, 03:59:21 AM

You don't see this offer on your Steam Wreckfest page?

Buy Wreckfest - Digital Deluxe Edition Upgrade   $12.99

Digital Deluxe upgrade for owners of Next Car Game: Wreckfest 

[/quote]

I think it's about store country because ins't US?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 10, 2018, 11:35:00 AM
Can you open this link? That should be the deluxe upgrade. But it should also be on the Wreckfest steam store page.

https://store.steampowered.com/sub/36750

I'm really struggling with the decision to upgrade or not. Would be much easier if I knew what car it's going to be... :D (beetle?) Don't care so much for wallpaper or soundtrack, only interested in the car... but 12.99 for one car? When I paid 17.50 for the whole game? That's kind of disproportionate.

I think Janne mentioned somewhere on steam that the content of the upgrade will change after the release. Meaning a different car will be available. Is this correct? So if you wanted both cars you'd have to pay twice? Only the second time you would actually know what you are buying?

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 10, 2018, 11:46:40 AM
I'm really struggling with the decision to upgrade or not. Would be much easier if I knew what car it's going to be... :D (beetle?) Don't care so much for wallpaper or soundtrack, only interested in the car... but 12.99 for one car? When I paid 17.50 for the whole game? That's kind of disproportionate.

I think Janne mentioned somewhere on steam that the content of the upgrade will change after the release. Meaning a different car will be available. Is this correct? So if you wanted both cars you'd have to pay twice? Only the second time you would actually know what you are buying?

That's what I'm so interested in, but Janne has not commented yet. I do not want to pay 2x for the Deluxe Edition!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 10, 2018, 11:47:36 AM
Can you open this link? That should be the deluxe upgrade. But it should also be on the Wreckfest steam store page.

https://store.steampowered.com/sub/36750

I'm really struggling with the decision to upgrade or not. Would be much easier if I knew what car it's going to be... :D (beetle?) Don't care so much for wallpaper or soundtrack, only interested in the car... but 12.99 for one car? When I paid 17.50 for the whole game? That's kind of disproportionate.

I think Janne mentioned somewhere on steam that the content of the upgrade will change after the release. Meaning a different car will be available. Is this correct? So if you wanted both cars you'd have to pay twice? Only the second time you would actually know what you are buying?
higher tiers always been more about the support toward Bugbear than content
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Zebulon55 on June 10, 2018, 12:01:25 PM
After release, you become a customer, not a backer, so the backer car is not available to purchase after release.

Seems that the data for the backer car must have to be in everybody's game, but only backers can drive it, and customers can see them driving it online.

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Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 10, 2018, 12:11:09 PM
That's all fine and dandy, didn't really answer the question. What if you buy the upgrade after release... the backers can see you drive around in a different car, that they don't have? Because they didn't buy the deluxe upgrade after release? Sorry if I'm beeing stupid.. maybe I need more coffee.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 10, 2018, 12:24:19 PM
That's all fine and dandy, didn't really answer the question. What if you buy the upgrade after release... the backers can see you drive around in a different car, that they don't have? Because they didn't buy the deluxe upgrade after release? Sorry if I'm beeing stupid.. maybe I need more coffee.

After release, you can not get the "Backer Car Backer" because it's not available anymore. A while after the release, there will be a new deluxe version with different content. But I still want to know if I have to buy it again ...
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Speedevil on June 10, 2018, 02:54:28 PM
That's all fine and dandy, didn't really answer the question. What if you buy the upgrade after release... the backers can see you drive around in a different car, that they don't have? Because they didn't buy the deluxe upgrade after release? Sorry if I'm beeing stupid.. maybe I need more coffee.

Well no, everybody has the backer car in their game, it's just that only the backers can use it. That's how DLC works.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Zebulon55 on June 10, 2018, 03:12:49 PM
Hmmm....
Yeah. I'm thinking there probably will be no deluxe version after release. There will only be the standard version of the game. If there will be a digital deluxe version that contains only the soundtrack and wallpapers, it probably won't be a big seller. I've never heard mention of a another exclusive car.
Apparently, there's a Team Bugbear paint job for one of the cars that's exclusive to the $70 preorder tier.
That's all fine and dandy, didn't really answer the question. What if you buy the upgrade after release... the backers can see you drive around in a different car, that they don't have? Because they didn't buy the deluxe upgrade after release? Sorry if I'm beeing stupid.. maybe I need more coffee.

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Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 10, 2018, 03:23:50 PM
That's all fine and dandy, didn't really answer the question. What if you buy the upgrade after release... the backers can see you drive around in a different car, that they don't have? Because they didn't buy the deluxe upgrade after release? Sorry if I'm beeing stupid.. maybe I need more coffee.

Well no, everybody has the backer car in their game, it's just that only the backers can use it. That's how DLC works.

I think there was a misunderstanding here, I knew all that. Maybe lost in translation somewhere. It wasn't about the backer car, but the other car - the one in the deluxe upgrade after release.
Hmmm....
Yeah. I'm thinking there probably will be no deluxe version after release.

It was my understanding that the deluxe upgrade will be available again shortly after release but with a different car. I think I read that somewhere on steam disussions(?) So I guess if I want both cars I'll have to pay for each one. Maybe that car will be a single DLC also (cheaper) so that you don't have to pay twice for soundtrack and wallpaper.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 10, 2018, 06:18:34 PM
There hasn't ever been any mention about some other car other than the backer car you get from buying Wrecker or higher tier directly from BugBear or buying the Digital Deluxe Edition / - Upgrade.

Quote
DIGITAL DELUXE EDITION
Buy the Digital Deluxe Edition and get a lot of great, exclusive content!

Backer Race Car
A special in-game race car that's not going to be available later!
Wallpapers
A set of cool wallpapers to trick out your desktop in style.
Soundtrack
A rocking soundtrack of the game.
Please note that the extra content will be available at a later date.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Andy Rotten on June 10, 2018, 06:44:07 PM
Can you open this link? That should be the deluxe upgrade. But it should also be on the Wreckfest steam store page.

https://store.steampowered.com/sub/36750

I can't Thanks BB...

https://imgur.com/a/EGWD8tr (https://imgur.com/a/EGWD8tr)

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 10, 2018, 07:06:43 PM
There hasn't ever been any mention about some other car other than the backer car you get from buying Wrecker or higher tier directly from BugBear or buying the Digital Deluxe Edition / - Upgrade.
(...)

Then how am I supposed to interpret this statement:
 
"Any changes to the contents of the post-launch Deluxe Edition will be revealed later on but at this point the planned content is the same as with the current pre-launch one, except that the car will be (obviously) different."  from jannesBB - June 7th - https://steamcommunity.com/app/228380/discussions/0/1696049513765688383/#c1696049513765887140

 ???
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 10, 2018, 07:24:29 PM
From the recent Steam news post:

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The Deluxe Edition will be removed for a short time but will come back in a different form with a unique car, the Soundtrack and an exclusive Wallpaper.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 10, 2018, 07:27:50 PM
Will the new car be available as a single DLC? or do we have to buy the whole deluxe upgrade (again) to get the the car?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 10, 2018, 07:41:07 PM
That I cannot say yet, hopefully we’ll have more info soon.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 10, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
Thanks a lot for clarifying. I was starting to doubt my sanity.   :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 10, 2018, 08:08:41 PM
If we already earn the deluxe edition, I hope the next car which is in the "new deluxe edition" will be available for owners of the old Digital deluxe edition FREELY.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Paul_B on June 10, 2018, 08:24:50 PM
I'll just wait it out a few months or even a year for any DLC, Sales are coming  ;D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 10, 2018, 08:49:58 PM
Are we going to see tweaked reset function in final game? I think it is the biggest problem of the game currently. People get frustrated if reset off, but understandably people also get frustrated with the current reset system as it feels really cheaty. In my opinion the speed limit need to be way more strict. And ghost mode off
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TheEngiGuy on June 10, 2018, 09:25:31 PM
Are we going to see tweaked reset function in final game? I think it is the biggest problem of the game currently. People get frustrated if reset off, but understandably people also get frustrated with the current reset system as it feels really cheaty. In my opinion the speed limit need to be way more strict. And ghost mode off

+1
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Defectiv on June 10, 2018, 10:17:02 PM
Indeed, the reset is horribly cheaty, even in single player I hate using it. Just too easy an escape!

But its simple to fix. Because even if the speed limit was kept the same, or adding a delay to how long it was before you reset too hard to implement simply add a time penalty. If you reset you don't restart for lets say ten seconds... Or make that adjustable.
That way you can weigh the option, is it faster to drive out of the mess your in or to reset.. But right now, reset is basically always the best option... There isnt any real penalty to using it...
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Rowdy Burns on June 10, 2018, 11:23:29 PM
I think the reset should be restricted to only be available when at a complete stop if it has to stay in the game. I like the idea of some penalty for abusing it.

Could some sort of timer like say an auto reset be programed in the game for if you say get stuck on your roof or stuck off track. That way, the silly reset button can be dismissed totally!

I'd much prefer no resets  :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Zebulon55 on June 10, 2018, 11:26:52 PM
Thanks a lot for clarifying. I was starting to doubt my sanity.   :)
Now I question my own sanity. Lol





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Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Mopower on June 11, 2018, 02:35:31 AM
I think the reset should be restricted to only be available when at a complete stop if it has to stay in the game. I like the idea of some penalty for abusing it.

Could some sort of timer like say an auto reset be programed in the game for if you say get stuck on your roof or stuck off track. That way, the silly reset button can be dismissed totally!

I'd much prefer no resets  :)

Yes, just remove them fr9m the game. Best option.

I am entirely serious.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 11, 2018, 04:20:52 AM
About resets. Would not be in favor of an auto reset in derbys, stock fig8 or suicide tracks. We have our rescue squad to roll you over on the Fig8 tracks. :)

But Saturday night while hosting Fig8 mods for Saturday Night Mods night, I left reset ON. So if players got totally lost on one of my custom fig8 tracks, they could reset there car back onto the track and hopefully face the right way to go.  :P 

(http://www.lay-zmattress.com/flatout2/purple44/Next%20Car%20Game%202018/track%20stuff/Fir8%20pack/Tarmac3-long-fig8-route.jpg)

Also for A to B type tracks, odds are nobody going be around to roll you over if you find a rock in the bushes!! So having resets would be nice.

About car being stop before reset will work. That be fine except Wreckers can take advantage of it.  If wrecker hits a wall, his car is stop and can reset car and go cause some more trouble without no time penalty for using a reset. Instead of having to backup his car to get going again.

About ghosting or instead have car respawn as a solid car. I do not want a solid car respawning right in front my car while me and Zeb are racing side by side and then I hit a solid respawning car and ruin my race with Zeb!  :(

Much rather have car ghost, so if I don't have chance to avoid respawning car, at least I can drive through it and keep close race still going. :)

So for me, to use a reset ( if turned ON ) there should be a penalty. I think a 5 second delay before reset actually works, would be a fair penalty and make you think twice before using it if instead it be faster to drive back onto the track.   :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: CFodder on June 11, 2018, 07:04:24 AM
It seems we go round and round with this yet BB don't seem to want to implement anything useful with it. I think making reset available 5s after you stop should be the way to go, bad luck if you get hit again in the intervening time ... it is wreckfest after all :p.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Zebulon55 on June 11, 2018, 08:41:33 AM

About ghosting or instead have car respawn as a solid car. I do not want a solid car respawning right in front my car while me and Zeb are racing side by side and then I hit a solid respawning car and ruin my race with Zeb!  :(

Much rather have car ghost, so if I don't have chance to avoid respawning car, at least I can drive through it and keep close race still going. :)

So for me, to use a reset ( if turned ON ) there should be a penalty. I think a 5 second delay before reset actually works, would be a fair penalty and make you think twice before using it if instead it be faster to drive back onto the track.   :D

Oh, sure. If we're racing side by side, I'm probably a lap behind.

I'm totally OK with a car materializing solid in front of you.  ;D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Rowdy Burns on June 11, 2018, 10:42:00 AM
After a bit more thought... A reset time based penalty doesn't make sense for a physics based game!
A damage penalty either to mechanical or overall health would be much better.

If they make it so resets can only be used when at a complete stop and after a 3 or 5 second counter would eliminate the need for a penalty and that's what I'd prefer along with realistic no reset options.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: CFodder on June 11, 2018, 11:45:33 AM
Have to disagree unless it took like 50% of damage as the resets are used to avoid it. Personally I see nothing wrong with a time based penalty, being a physics based game is, to mind, irrelevant.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Rowdy Burns on June 11, 2018, 01:18:52 PM
Or... Maybe the penalty for abusing resets shouldn't be time, damage or xp deductions but only be able to select the lawnmower wearing a traffic cone on the drivers head for the next few races  :)

Be interesting to see what Bugbear comes up with regarding this reset situation!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 11, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
In addition to "Speeder - Best Lap", "Heavy Hitter..." and so on, maybe make a new post race "trophy" called "Baby Driver - Most Resets" and show a picture of a little girl or something with the player name. Something like...
   

No guarantee that this would actually reduce the use of resets, though   ;D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Rowdy Burns on June 11, 2018, 01:23:30 PM
Haha combined would make a near perfect solution for the reset abusers!  :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Caley19 on June 11, 2018, 02:50:40 PM
To add one more crazy idea - how about a race where your car will randomly change to another every lap :P
One lap you're driving a roadslayer another lap a lawnmover I would loveto see something like that in multiplayer  ;)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: [ASSASSIN] Devils Shadow on June 11, 2018, 06:24:22 PM
In addition to "Speeder - Best Lap", "Heavy Hitter..." and so on, maybe make a new post race "trophy" called "Baby Driver - Most Resets" and show a picture of a little girl or something with the player name. Something like...
   

No guarantee that this would actually reduce the use of resets, though   ;D
Theres actually a term for that, its called "sandbagger"
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 11, 2018, 06:41:06 PM
How about 1 in 10 resets randomly results in engine failure (can no longer accelerate) :)
But seriously any kind of penalty for resetting would be welcomed. To encourage people use them only when there is no other alternative. Rather than going straight for the reset button,before even trying to recover.

At the minute i think there are 3 situations when they are currently used.
1)To avoid losing position/time when you go off track,hit a tree etc,instead of just driving back onto the track (bad)
2)To avoid being hit,avoid being pinned against wall in DDs,avoid being stuck in pileups (bad)
3)When you are genuinely stuck.On roof/no wheels touching floor,out of track barrier with no way to return (good)

This is why i run no resets on my servers,they do more harm than good. And those who are stuck on their roof usually get help from kind hearted back markers anyway.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 11, 2018, 06:57:33 PM
Ideally there would be a strict speed limit AND 5 second delay. And not even an option in derbies, it has no place there
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 11, 2018, 07:16:14 PM
Ideally there would be a strict speed limit AND 5 second delay. And not even an option in derbies, it has no place there
I actually wish there were no resets unless you were outside of track boundary with no way of returning. Instead just a 'im stuck/stranded' option for drivers, then highlight that car visually for all drivers to see. No doubt back makers,crashers,slow drivers would be happy to oblige and hit you. More crashing for the crashing fans,stranded driver still gets to return to racing. Makes the crashing drivers more helpful to those who want a serious race. Everyones a winner?

Well other than those who use reset to maintain an advantage,but no respect for them anyway.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 11, 2018, 08:24:43 PM
Woohoo!!!! Wreckfest 'Overall' Steam score now mostly positive!! Well deserved for your hard work Bugbear. Much better to see the blue 'Mostly positive tag' instead of the brown 'Mixed'.  https://store.steampowered.com/app/228380/Wreckfest/
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 11, 2018, 10:57:27 PM
In addition to "Speeder - Best Lap", "Heavy Hitter..." and so on, maybe make a new post race "trophy" called "Baby Driver - Most Resets" and show a picture of a little girl or something with the player name. Something like...
   

No guarantee that this would actually reduce the use of resets, though   ;D

Hahaha....love it. I can seriously see something like this working. Otherwise?....DITCH THE RESETS.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Caley19 on June 12, 2018, 02:51:27 AM
only two days left
(https://media.giphy.com/media/rVbAzUUSUC6dO/giphy.gif)

Prepare your wheels!

and good luck starting from scratch!  ;D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 12, 2018, 03:07:56 AM
only two days left
(https://media.giphy.com/media/rVbAzUUSUC6dO/giphy.gif)

Prepare your wheels!

and good luck starting from scratch!  ;D

I'm looking forward to giving the career mode a go. Have not tried it yet, been waiting for final version.   :D

Also I have not bought all the cars yet, so I will have a new car or two to use for career mode. I'm going with the Firefly for a fast car and the Dominator for a tough car for the derbys and fig8 races. And get these cars upgraded to race online.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 12, 2018, 09:22:34 AM
That's a good idea, seeing as all legacy save data will be wiped with the full release.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 12, 2018, 10:29:20 AM
That's a good idea, seeing as all legacy save data will be wiped with the full release.

Janne, maybe you want to bring that as a blog article or news in Steam? There are many people there. Because I could imagine that many think now to do everything in order to have an advantage at release.

I've been doing that for over 4 years, far beyond level 50 (by the way, getting more level options?), 300,000 credits, and more! I can imagine that many are horrified when they see that their score has been deleted ...
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 12, 2018, 10:41:27 AM
That's a good idea, seeing as all legacy save data will be wiped with the full release.

Yesterday I finally broke 10 million. looks like I will have to do a lot of racing to get all them credits again lol

(http://i68.tinypic.com/97tx1l.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 12, 2018, 10:44:44 AM
That's a good idea, seeing as all legacy save data will be wiped with the full release.

Yesterday I finally broke 10 million. looks like I will have to do a lot of racing to get all them credits again lol

(http://i68.tinypic.com/97tx1l.jpg)

 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 12, 2018, 10:46:27 AM
That's a good idea, seeing as all legacy save data will be wiped with the full release.

Yesterday I finally broke 10 million. looks like I will have to do a lot of racing to get all them credits again lol

(http://i68.tinypic.com/97tx1l.jpg)

 :'( :'( :'(

Nahhh nothing to cry about... it will be fun again to gain everything back!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 12, 2018, 10:53:07 AM
That's a good idea, seeing as all legacy save data will be wiped with the full release.

Janne, maybe you want to bring that as a blog article or news in Steam? There are many people there. Because I could imagine that many think now to do everything in order to have an advantage at release.

I've been doing that for over 4 years, far beyond level 50 (by the way, getting more level options?), 300,000 credits, and more! I can imagine that many are horrified when they see that their score has been deleted ...

Janne pinned a thread in the Steam Wreckfest forum today:

SAVE DATA WIPE WITH RELEASE (https://steamcommunity.com/app/228380/discussions/0/1696049513783346021/)


Also:

Quote from: jannesBB;1696049513783459784
I'm definitely planning to race online once the full version is out to race with you guys and celebrate the launch :-) Looking forward to it, fingers crossed the launch goes smoothly and that there are no major issues.

Hopefully some of our other guys can make it too.

 :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: CFodder on June 12, 2018, 11:05:29 AM
He stated he likes clean racing, best he steer clear of the OLDr server lol :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 12, 2018, 11:08:20 AM
That's a good idea, seeing as all legacy save data will be wiped with the full release.

Yesterday I finally broke 10 million. looks like I will have to do a lot of racing to get all them credits again lol

(http://i68.tinypic.com/97tx1l.jpg)

 :'( :'( :'(

Nahhh nothing to cry about... it will be fun again to gain everything back!

Yes you are right, I will play a lot on the weekend!  :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 12, 2018, 11:09:54 AM
That's a good idea, seeing as all legacy save data will be wiped with the full release.

Janne, maybe you want to bring that as a blog article or news in Steam? There are many people there. Because I could imagine that many think now to do everything in order to have an advantage at release.

I've been doing that for over 4 years, far beyond level 50 (by the way, getting more level options?), 300,000 credits, and more! I can imagine that many are horrified when they see that their score has been deleted ...

Janne pinned a thread in the Steam Wreckfest forum today:

SAVE DATA WIPE WITH RELEASE (https://steamcommunity.com/app/228380/discussions/0/1696049513783346021/)


Also:

Quote from: jannesBB;1696049513783459784
I'm definitely planning to race online once the full version is out to race with you guys and celebrate the launch :-) Looking forward to it, fingers crossed the launch goes smoothly and that there are no major issues.

Hopefully some of our other guys can make it too.

 :D

Oh, races against Janne and maybe other developers, that sounds like a lot of fun. I hope you do not love your paint ...  :P
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 12, 2018, 11:36:07 AM
He stated he likes clean racing, best he steer clear of the OLDr server lol :)

Not to worry, I can take and deal some punishment too :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 12, 2018, 12:28:15 PM
In addition to "Speeder - Best Lap", "Heavy Hitter..." and so on, maybe make a new post race "trophy" called "Baby Driver - Most Resets" and show a picture of a little girl or something with the player name. (...)
Theres actually a term for that, its called "sandbagger"
That's much better because it doesn't sound like that movie about a fast getaway driver.  :)

p.s. There was a short teaser for Wreckfest (just snippets from the other trailer) on twitch E3 stream yesterday. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/272058082?t=08h07m18s
EDIT: ehm... didn't notice that teaser was online for a few days now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8kr0nrhu58
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: dbs213 on June 12, 2018, 12:40:28 PM
I feel so unlucky; I might not be able to play the full build until a whole week after. I'll be out of town when the game releases :'(
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Finsku on June 12, 2018, 01:00:06 PM
That's a good idea, seeing as all legacy save data will be wiped with the full release.

Is there a way to restore your old data after full release is out?
I'm happy everyone starts from zero, but I'm afraid someone finds a way to restore old data.
Also, is it somehow blocked you can't get money/levels with "hacking"?

EDIT: In other words, will Wreckfest use Steam cloud to save game progress, levels and xp points.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 12, 2018, 03:59:09 PM
No Steam Cloud support, so cheats will work as before. It's a bit of bummer especially online but we have had more pressing issues to tackle lately.

Legacy save data might work somehow if you can live with the usual marketplace glitches, missing parts and so on but we definitely advice against trying to use it.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 12, 2018, 04:41:03 PM
Janne, if you're still around, do you have any idea at what time the update is going to be unleashed (european time)? I presume it's not going to be one minute after midnight... :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 12, 2018, 05:38:32 PM
Release should go succesful. Looking Headlinder tour Stream and Youtube footage people love the game. And Wreckfest has 0 competitors. If there no game breaking bugs everything should go well.

Which made me think that should there be announcement that servers won't work untill owners have updated them?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 12, 2018, 06:00:54 PM
I guess a full minute before midnight would be our style but we’ve scheduled the release for 19pm CEST. We’re still in the process of polishing and tweaking but everything should be good to go on Thursday. Naturally we’ll maintain full battle stations on Friday in case something critical comes up.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: BenDover on June 12, 2018, 06:05:22 PM
No Steam Cloud support, so cheats will work as before. It's a bit of bummer especially online but we have had more pressing issues to tackle lately.

Legacy save data might work somehow if you can live with the usual marketplace glitches, missing parts and so on but we definitely advice against trying to use it.

Will the other issues be working on after the release?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 12, 2018, 07:28:17 PM
I guess there will be some silent holiday time bit after the release ;) Hopefully you can improve the game even after the release along with adding some DLC maybe
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 12, 2018, 09:52:05 PM
I guess there will be some silent holiday time bit after the release ;) Hopefully you can improve the game even after the release along with adding some DLC maybe

I think that one reason we are seeing a June 14 release date. Give the Bugbear Devs a couple weeks to  do any hotfixes that are needed, then they can go on their summer vacation. I bet The Devs are ready for some vacation time after working so hard since last summer to get Wreckfest ready for prime time release Thursday.

I doubt Bugbear will tell us now what their plans are going forward, but after the Dev come back from the summer time off to recharge their batteries, would be nice if Bugbear give us a hint of where they want go now. :) 

Beside finishing up console versions of Wreckfest and releasing a new update to Stuntfest with objects that will work with Wreckfest without crashing game and a Stuntfest editor that can load current track maps without crashing Stuntfest!

Will Bugbear take break from working on Wreckfest ( except to add some new content next year in an expansion pack  :D ) and start planning their "Next Car Game" before they start working on Wreckfest 2? Or will Bugbear have to see how well console versions of Wreckfest sell before making plans? If console versions sell 1 million copies by Christmas, Bugbear should be sitting pretty good financially if Bugbear did not have to give up 51% of control of Wreckfest and profits to THQ.

I sure hope Bugbear did not have to sell their soul to get the financing they needed last year to finish Wreckfest! The $50,000,000 the Flatout games brought in, went mostly to publisher Empire Interactive ( there was an article about this ). Bugbear did not get to share a whole lot in the financial success of Flatout.  :(

That was my hope this time around with the crowd funding of NCG\ Wreckfest that Bugbear would get to pocket most the profits from their hard work on making another great racing game.  :D  I hope it still true now we have a publisher THQ involved now. I was thinking Bugbear would need a publisher to help with getting console versions of Wreckfest release. Just hope it did not come at to big of price for Bugbear to enjoy the fruit of their labor the last 5 years.

But I do have to say at times over the last 3 years ( mainly 2015-1017 ) Bugbear forgot to keep the community, that made Wreckfest possible with the $$ support, in the loop of how the development of Wreckfest was going. But in the end it all worked out, Wreckfest is looking good these days.  :D

I'm very happy that the community did get to help shape Wreckfest over the last 4 years.  :D :D Wreckfest should have longevity for years to come thanks to community letting Bugbear know when they were going to far off course. Like Wreckfest being to much a sim after Build #7 and realistic damage was to realistic first version we got to test this year.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 12, 2018, 09:52:16 PM
I don't mind at all starting from scratch, will be fun to do all over again. I do have a question regarding "hacks" though, Are they really
a thing and will the release render them useless? I am just going by intuition on this and have heard hacks can and cannot be used
CURRENTLY. Janne says cheats will still work in the near term but does that mean cheats are "hacks"?

I have a gut feeling hacks are going on, (enough online racing will get you suspicious), and would love it if the playing field
gets 100% securely leveled with the release.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 12, 2018, 10:08:33 PM
I don't mind at all starting from scratch, will be fun to do all over again. I do have a question regarding "hacks" though, Are they really
a thing and will the release render them useless? I am just going by intuition on this and have heard hacks can and cannot be used
CURRENTLY. Janne says cheats will still work in the near term but does that mean cheats are "hacks"?

I have a gut feeling hacks are going on, (enough online racing will get you suspicious), and would love it if the playing field
gets 100% securely leveled with the release.

Believe Janne referring to players "hacking" ( using old career file ) to get exp and credits back after the career files are wipe.

If everybody got to start over, there should be no A class cars online Friday. But if you see players with a full line up of different A class cars, odds are they swap in old career file or did the mod that will give you the cash to buy all the cars and parts you want. Or maybe they been up 24 hours racing online like Race label to do come release day, so have the credits to upgrade his Roadcutter!!

As to truly hacking the game to cheat online, have not seen any reports this being done. Wreckfest run a pretty good anti-cheat verify players are using stock flies before it will let you join a stock host.  :D

But always been a problem online for very good players since Flatout 1 online, that know the tracks real well and found the best tuning setup for the preferred car they like to use, get accused of cheating. How else do these players get such good lap times?

From talking to them, it because they have race tracks a zillion times and found good settings for their controller ( be it wheel, pad or KB ) and found the best combo of parts for their car. They are very consistence with their laps.

Me in a 5 lap race, I'm going screw up at least one lap and go wide or get car going to far sideways with no assists.  :P
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 12, 2018, 10:16:12 PM
I don't mind at all starting from scratch, will be fun to do all over again. I do have a question regarding "hacks" though, Are they really
a thing and will the release render them useless? I am just going by intuition on this and have heard hacks can and cannot be used
CURRENTLY. Janne says cheats will still work in the near term but does that mean cheats are "hacks"?

I have a gut feeling hacks are going on, (enough online racing will get you suspicious), and would love it if the playing field
gets 100% securely leveled with the release.


Believe Janne referring to players "hacking" ( using old career file ) to get exp and credits back after the career files are wipe.

If everybody got to start over, there should be no A class cars online Friday. But if you see players with a full line up of different A class cars, odds are they swap in old career file or did the mod that will give you the crash to buy all the cars and parts you want.

As to truly hacking the game to cheat online, have not seen any reports this being done. Wreckfest run a pretty good anti-cheat verify players are using stock flies before it will let you join a stock host.  :D

But always been a problem online for very good players since Flatout 1 online, that know the tracks real well and found the best tuning setup for the preferred car they like to use, get accused of cheating. How else do these players get such good lap times?

From talking to them, it because they have race tracks a zillion times and found good settings for their controller ( be it wheel, pad or KB ) and found the best combo of parts for their car. They are very consistence with their laps.

Me in a 5 lap race, I'm going screw up at least one lap and go wide or get car going to far sideways with no assists.  :P

Thank you for the feedback Purple. This will be interesting to watch after release! I will be a "C class noob" until I get my vacation
in early July lol.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 12, 2018, 10:17:41 PM
I don't mind at all starting from scratch, will be fun to do all over again. I do have a question regarding "hacks" though, Are they really
a thing and will the release render them useless? I am just going by intuition on this and have heard hacks can and cannot be used
CURRENTLY. Janne says cheats will still work in the near term but does that mean cheats are "hacks"?

I have a gut feeling hacks are going on, (enough online racing will get you suspicious), and would love it if the playing field
gets 100% securely leveled with the release.
Wreckfest has a good anticheat, as a lot of physics data is controlled by the server. Otherwise people would be able to change engine performance etc etc to be faster. We have full mod tools,which gives you full control over the game. But only works if all players and host have the same files.

But what Janne is talking about is changing your savegame,or to put it another way cheating your personal progression. The personal progression should have no or very little bearing on how you perform and enjoy online. Its a racing game after all,not a grinding XP levels simulator ;)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 12, 2018, 10:25:41 PM
I don't mind at all starting from scratch, will be fun to do all over again. I do have a question regarding "hacks" though, Are they really
a thing and will the release render them useless? I am just going by intuition on this and have heard hacks can and cannot be used
CURRENTLY. Janne says cheats will still work in the near term but does that mean cheats are "hacks"?

I have a gut feeling hacks are going on, (enough online racing will get you suspicious), and would love it if the playing field
gets 100% securely leveled with the release.
Wreckfest has a good anticheat, as a lot of physics data is controlled by the server. Otherwise people would be able to change engine performance etc etc to be faster. We have full mod tools,which gives you full control over the game. But only works if all players and host have the same files.

But what Janne is talking about is changing your savegame,or to put it another way cheating your personal progression. The personal progression should have no or very little bearing on how you perform and enjoy online. Its a racing game after all,not a grinding XP levels simulator ;)

Thank you sam223. By "server' do you mean a BugBear server? I can ask in another thread at another time about how all this
works.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Finsku on June 12, 2018, 10:46:57 PM
Btw, now E3 is running so..
Will we see Wreckfest trailer on E3 Twitch channel?
https://www.twitch.tv/twitch

60k viewers now...
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 12, 2018, 10:54:05 PM
Still got couple questions, minor things though:
will there be more songs in final version?
is there going to be achievements?
also the release date on steam is wrong
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 12, 2018, 11:05:10 PM
I don't mind at all starting from scratch, will be fun to do all over again. I do have a question regarding "hacks" though, Are they really
a thing and will the release render them useless? I am just going by intuition on this and have heard hacks can and cannot be used
CURRENTLY. Janne says cheats will still work in the near term but does that mean cheats are "hacks"?

I have a gut feeling hacks are going on, (enough online racing will get you suspicious), and would love it if the playing field
gets 100% securely leveled with the release.
Wreckfest has a good anticheat, as a lot of physics data is controlled by the server. Otherwise people would be able to change engine performance etc etc to be faster. We have full mod tools,which gives you full control over the game. But only works if all players and host have the same files.

But what Janne is talking about is changing your savegame,or to put it another way cheating your personal progression. The personal progression should have no or very little bearing on how you perform and enjoy online. Its a racing game after all,not a grinding XP levels simulator ;)

Thank you sam223. By "server' do you mean a BugBear server? I can ask in another thread at another time about how all this
works.
All but 1 server are provided by the community currently. Basically in the server selection screen the game checks your files,and you can only join servers which match your files identically. So modded games cant join mod free servers and vice versa.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 12, 2018, 11:31:51 PM
I don't mind at all starting from scratch, will be fun to do all over again. I do have a question regarding "hacks" though, Are they really
a thing and will the release render them useless? I am just going by intuition on this and have heard hacks can and cannot be used
CURRENTLY. Janne says cheats will still work in the near term but does that mean cheats are "hacks"?

I have a gut feeling hacks are going on, (enough online racing will get you suspicious), and would love it if the playing field
gets 100% securely leveled with the release.
Wreckfest has a good anticheat, as a lot of physics data is controlled by the server. Otherwise people would be able to change engine performance etc etc to be faster. We have full mod tools,which gives you full control over the game. But only works if all players and host have the same files.

But what Janne is talking about is changing your savegame,or to put it another way cheating your personal progression. The personal progression should have no or very little bearing on how you perform and enjoy online. Its a racing game after all,not a grinding XP levels simulator ;)

Thank you sam223. By "server' do you mean a BugBear server? I can ask in another thread at another time about how all this
works.
All but 1 server are provided by the community currently. Basically in the server selection screen the game checks your files,and you can only join servers which match your files identically. So modded games cant join mod free servers and vice versa.
Okay, so the parameters of the anti-cheat are hardcoded into the game and encrypted I presume, making THAT just about if not entirely impossible to defeat. That system then checks and compares the game files of everyone else for an exact match.

I honestly haven't seen much more than a variety of butthurt complaints regarding hacks/cheats that are totally unfounded and unsubstantiated. I appreciate the great feedback and I feel my question has been addressed, thank you!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 12, 2018, 11:51:43 PM
I don't mind at all starting from scratch, will be fun to do all over again. I do have a question regarding "hacks" though, Are they really
a thing and will the release render them useless? I am just going by intuition on this and have heard hacks can and cannot be used
CURRENTLY. Janne says cheats will still work in the near term but does that mean cheats are "hacks"?

I have a gut feeling hacks are going on, (enough online racing will get you suspicious), and would love it if the playing field
gets 100% securely leveled with the release.
Wreckfest has a good anticheat, as a lot of physics data is controlled by the server. Otherwise people would be able to change engine performance etc etc to be faster. We have full mod tools,which gives you full control over the game. But only works if all players and host have the same files.

But what Janne is talking about is changing your savegame,or to put it another way cheating your personal progression. The personal progression should have no or very little bearing on how you perform and enjoy online. Its a racing game after all,not a grinding XP levels simulator ;)

Thank you sam223. By "server' do you mean a BugBear server? I can ask in another thread at another time about how all this
works.
All but 1 server are provided by the community currently. Basically in the server selection screen the game checks your files,and you can only join servers which match your files identically. So modded games cant join mod free servers and vice versa.
Okay, so the parameters of the anti-cheat are hardcoded into the game and encrypted I presume, making THAT just about if not entirely impossible to defeat. That system then checks and compares the game files of everyone else for an exact match.

I honestly haven't seen much more than a variety of butthurt complaints regarding hacks/cheats that are totally unfounded and unsubstantiated. I appreciate the great feedback and I feel my question has been addressed, thank you!
I think it builds some sort of database based on files that are loaded by the game at that time (i.e additional mods) and then check it against the individual servers database of files. All the files are open though,thanks to bugbears great modding system. But ye its very strict,ive even tried re-saving a file with identical data to official data only for it to be flagged by the anti-cheat.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Heddly on June 13, 2018, 01:19:04 AM
Concerning the debate about a 5 second delay before you can reset the car.

 I haven't played Career Mode but have read that you need to win every race to advance. True or False?

If you are playing Career Mode will this ruin your race and chance of a good finish? Will it be frustrating and and be better to restart the race instead of trying to finish.

Is there a way to made a mod to add the requested 5 second delay to the reset for players who have this on their wish list?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 13, 2018, 01:24:24 AM
Concerning the debate about a 5 second delay before you can reset the car.

 I haven't played Career Mode but have read that you need to win every race to advance. True or False?

If you are playing Career Mode will this ruin your race and chance of a good finish? Will it be frustrating and and be better to restart the race instead of trying to finish.

Is there a way to made a mod to add the requested 5 second delay to the reset for players who have this on their wish list?

Yeah restart is no problem (no penalties).
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Heddly on June 13, 2018, 01:40:17 AM
Concerning the debate about a 5 second delay before you can reset the car.

 I haven't played Career Mode but have read that you need to win every race to advance. True or False?

If you are playing Career Mode will this ruin your race and chance of a good finish? Will it be frustrating and and be better to restart the race instead of trying to finish.

Is there a way to made a mod to add the requested 5 second delay to the reset for players who have this on their wish list?

Yeah restart is no problem (no penalties).

What I am trying to say is that Career Mode will be a waste of time if you are penalized because a car wrecks you and your game and chance of winning are ruined.

I have played other games like this where you can not complete the level if you have just one incident. I don't want the 5 second delay on reset if it is going to ruin my experience in CAREER MODE.

I have no concern about what players prefer when racing online, that is where the mods are, Does Career Mode use mods other than skins maybe?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Caley19 on June 13, 2018, 02:00:45 AM
5 seconds delay is a good idea imo, mostly because players are using reset buttons a lot(if they are even enabled). You crash in to a wall in high speed - you instantly hit reset button and you're back in race. Don't get me wrong but that sounds like a game for kids. In a real race - after hitting a wall players should simply reverse and god help them to avoid all incoming trafic behind them ;) This 5 (or maybe less) seconds delay is a nice fix to these situations and players will realize that reset button is there only for when they are flipped, stuck or lost somewhere out of the track and not for situations where after acident they can still drive or get back on track in less than 5 seconds.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 13, 2018, 02:28:36 AM
Concerning the debate about a 5 second delay before you can reset the car.

 I haven't played Career Mode but have read that you need to win every race to advance. True or False?

If you are playing Career Mode will this ruin your race and chance of a good finish? Will it be frustrating and and be better to restart the race instead of trying to finish.

Is there a way to made a mod to add the requested 5 second delay to the reset for players who have this on their wish list?

Yeah restart is no problem (no penalties).

What I am trying to say is that Career Mode will be a waste of time if you are penalized because a car wrecks you and your game and chance of winning are ruined.

I have played other games like this where you can not complete the level if you have just one incident. I don't want the 5 second delay on reset if it is going to ruin my experience in CAREER MODE.

I have no concern about what players prefer when racing online, that is where the mods are, Does Career Mode use mods other than skins maybe?

Just click restart, if not into your 3rd session feasibly.  really not a hassle. and no mods are enabled unless you enable them while in career mode. and most if not all mods, work while you are in career mode. which makes no sense to me. because there are some mods that give you a huge advantage... IE: Hulksmash. just my 2Cents of info to you  ;)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 13, 2018, 02:42:14 AM
Just click restart, if not into your 3rd session feasibly.  really not a hassle. and no mods are enabled unless you enable them while in career mode. and most if not all mods, work while you are in career mode. which makes no sense to me. because there are some mods that give you a huge advantage... IE: Hulksmash. just my 2Cents of info to you  ;)
Well yes,but career is a personal thing. So if you choose to play it with a mod that makes it easier,then it is your choice :) It is the good thing about having a totally open mod system,we can make a mod to skip all career progression if we want to or make it even harder,or completely change it. Its upto you whether you use it or not. But imo,its better to be able to do these things,than everything be locked away. Maybe its just me,but im more interested in fiddling with the career mode,than i am in actually playing it ;)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 13, 2018, 03:31:44 AM
Just click restart, if not into your 3rd session feasibly.  really not a hassle. and no mods are enabled unless you enable them while in career mode. and most if not all mods, work while you are in career mode. which makes no sense to me. because there are some mods that give you a huge advantage... IE: Hulksmash. just my 2Cents of info to you  ;)
Well yes,but career is a personal thing. So if you choose to play it with a mod that makes it easier,then it is your choice :) It is the good thing about having a totally open mod system,we can make a mod to skip all career progression if we want to or make it even harder,or completely change it. Its upto you whether you use it or not. But imo,its better to be able to do these things,than everything be locked away. Maybe its just me,but im more interested in fiddling with the career mode,than i am in actually playing it ;)

Yes that is a very good point Sam.  I am also glad that the mods do still work, even when Career mode is in effect. speaking of career + tweaking... I sure wish there was a way to get SPRINT back into action! I really miss that mode, and not sure why Bugbear got rid of it. But if it still worked, I would love to have that in some career sessions! or a separate career mode!  sadly... looks like we will not get any more modes.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Eggtooth on June 13, 2018, 09:40:26 AM
Janne, are you planning on adding driver animations and fix the driver/wheel being bent post release?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TPEHAK on June 13, 2018, 06:13:01 PM
The most people are "abusing" reset and they are OK with it, but some people want to restrict it. I see no problem here, there is no reason to restrict reset, minority can't say what to do to majority.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 13, 2018, 06:48:39 PM
Because it kill the gameplay, it avoid crash and it's too easy, so go play gt sport if you're not happy to have accident/crash/roll over then go back on the track instead of pressing a single key. The short delay (3/5 sec) is a must have in this game, so you have to choose btw "I'll go back on the track it's faster" or "I'll wait to reset cause too far/stuck/on the roof" etc
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: BenDover on June 13, 2018, 07:04:06 PM
The most people are "abusing" reset and they are OK with it, but some people want to restrict it. I see no problem here, there is no reason to restrict reset, minority can't say what to do to majority.

Ha now we are using that logic again *clap* *clap* *clap*
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 13, 2018, 07:11:28 PM
The most people are "abusing" reset and they are OK with it, but some people want to restrict it. I see no problem here, there is no reason to restrict reset, minority can't say what to do to majority.
Minority can't say what to do to majority? If that the case, hmmm, what people are in charge of the country where you live in? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 13, 2018, 07:34:49 PM
Doesnt matter about majority or minority in this case.Its the server owners who will dictate whether there are resets which can be abused,or no resets at all. This discussion isn't about that,but instead about trying to find a happy medium instead of on/off.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 13, 2018, 07:51:53 PM
Is this the Backer Car? :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 13, 2018, 08:14:08 PM
Is this the Backer Car? :)
The text seems to imply so. Hot damn that's a sweet ass car!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 13, 2018, 08:19:25 PM
Hot damn indeed :D sweet.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest100380 on June 13, 2018, 08:31:28 PM
I was hoping that the backer car wasn't a VW Beetle. That Dodge Challenger-Plymouth Cuda looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: The Very End on June 13, 2018, 08:33:01 PM
Can't find the old pre order page, but does the master blaster guys get this? Think I paid like 50 or something back in the days, but unsure if that gives me this car or if only the deluxe version.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 13, 2018, 08:37:21 PM
Can't find the old pre order page, but does the master blaster guys get this? Think I paid like 50 or something back in the days, but unsure if that gives me this car or if only the deluxe version.
Even Wrecker backers get it (second lowest tier), so yes you get it.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Konan on June 13, 2018, 09:13:22 PM
Can't find the old pre order page, but does the master blaster guys get this? Think I paid like 50 or something back in the days, but unsure if that gives me this car or if only the deluxe version.
Even Wrecker backers get it (second lowest tier), so yes you get it.

WOOHOOOO!!!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: catn1p on June 13, 2018, 09:20:48 PM
Hot damn indeed :D sweet.


Kinda looks like our good ol Bullet GT from FlatOut 2 <3
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 13, 2018, 09:29:34 PM
Sweet looking car. I hope to god the customization/part system bugs get addressed, would be a pity this car gets held
back by that. Can't wait to see the mods for this baby down the road!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TheEngiGuy on June 13, 2018, 09:36:52 PM
That car is ok but I'm more hyped for the new loading screen tomorrow.

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 13, 2018, 10:05:16 PM
So 19:00 CEST equates to 10:00 am PST for me and I have the day off!...WEEEEEEE!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 13, 2018, 10:20:05 PM
Wow I was hoping it will be a muscle car and it is a beeeaaautiful one, my favorite car now !  8)
If you don't know if you have the backer car/digital deluxe edition, just check on steam and you should see 3 articles like DLC above the workshop which are:
- Wreckfest Exclusive Car
- Wreckfest Soundtrack
- Wreckfest Wallpaper
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: dbs213 on June 13, 2018, 10:43:19 PM
I'm a Master Blaster but I don't have any of the "DLCs" the post above mentioned ???

This is why I shouldn't be browsing at 4am. My bad.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: XavierBK on June 13, 2018, 10:50:58 PM
The tiers have changed around so much since my initial purchase back in 2013 that I'm not even sure what I am supposed to get anymore.

Back in 2013 I purchased a Weekend Smasher and then in 2017 I also purchased what I thought was an upgraded tier, Team Bugbear Member.

Do these get the backer car?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 13, 2018, 10:59:26 PM
I'm a Master Blaster but I don't have any of the "DLCs" the post above mentioned ???
They arent released yet

The tiers have changed around so much since my initial purchase back in 2013 that I'm not even sure what I am supposed to get anymore.

Back in 2013 I purchased a Weekend Smasher and then in 2017 I also purchased what I thought was an upgraded tier, Team Bugbear Member.

Do these get the backer car?

Team Bugbear Member gets the backer car
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: VX97 on June 13, 2018, 11:10:54 PM
As I do have BugBear Team Member badge and I bought Wreckfest from BB's own site, I do get that car automatically when the game releases? In store page it shows I dont have Wreckfest - Digital Deluxe Edition Upgrade because it shows it as "Add into cart"?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 13, 2018, 11:43:48 PM
I'm also assuming that we who backed through BB's webstie will get some key tomorrow for the Deluxe Edition. Maybe by the SendOwl again?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: MALZman on June 13, 2018, 11:53:34 PM
Congrats for pulling it off can't wait for the 1.0 build yeasas  :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: XavierBK on June 13, 2018, 11:57:59 PM
Team Bugbear Member gets the backer car

Any idea how I can check which NCG/Wreckfest key I have used? Since I have made two purchases I have two keys and obviously can only use one. Since my refund request (per instructions here: http://community.bugbeargames.com/index.php/topic,820.0.html) was never fulfilled I figured I may as well make use of the second copy and hold a giveaway of sorts at some point.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 14, 2018, 12:05:00 AM
Team Bugbear Member gets the backer car

Any idea how I can check which NCG/Wreckfest key I have used? Since I have made two purchases I have two keys and obviously can only use one. Since my refund request (per instructions here: http://community.bugbeargames.com/index.php/topic,820.0.html) was never fulfilled I figured I may as well make use of the second copy and hold a giveaway of sorts at some point.
I doubt it matters which one you have activated,probably all the keys distributed so far are identical,just the base game.

I cant confirm how you will get the additional backer car as a non steam purchaser. Hopefully Janne will respond shortly and clear it up. But i assume,if you bought a tier from bugbear that is high enough to receive the car (i.e team bugbear) you will get an email telling you how to unlock the additional content.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Caley19 on June 14, 2018, 12:30:24 AM
I just upgraded to deluxe edition, please tell me that I can get that car now D:

Bugbear's twitter has been nicely active in last hours looks like they will let the lights on in their studio this night ;)

Wish you the best for the release! Cover up with armor and don't let them bugs pass thru! :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Peglegswansoon on June 14, 2018, 02:21:07 AM
If you want to check if you have the backer car, look at your Steam library. If you click on Wreckfest that page should show you a DLC section, it tells you which you have. For me it shows the backer car, soundtrack and wallpaper as separate DLCs.

There were some people asking about it on the Facebook post and that was the response, could do with a PSA about it maybe?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Caley19 on June 14, 2018, 02:50:59 AM
If you want to check if you have the backer car, look at your Steam library. If you click on Wreckfest that page should show you a DLC section, it tells you which you have. For me it shows the backer car, soundtrack and wallpaper as separate DLCs.

There were some people asking about it on the Facebook post and that was the response, could do with a PSA about it maybe?

Ah I see it now! thanks for the help :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest100380 on June 14, 2018, 04:58:20 AM
15 hours til release.  8) ;D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on June 14, 2018, 04:58:53 AM
Wow I was hoping it will be a muscle car and it is a beeeaaautiful one, my favorite car now !  8)
If you don't know if you have the backer car/digital deluxe edition, just check on steam and you should see 3 articles like DLC above the workshop which are:
- Wreckfest Exclusive Car
- Wreckfest Soundtrack
- Wreckfest Wallpaper


You don't see those if you pre-ordered from Bugbear site. Only if bought deluxe edition from Steam Wreckfest page.

I assume we will be getting an email sometime Thursday with a Steam key for the backer car and soundtrack. We already got the link to download the wallpaper. I wonder if Bugbear going update the wallpaper to some newer images?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Andy Rotten on June 14, 2018, 05:01:46 AM


I'm so disappointed i can't get any dlc or deluxe edition  >:(
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Callahan420 on June 14, 2018, 07:03:32 AM
I assume as a Wrecker backer I will receive an extra key for the car via email. Hopefully someone will clarify this.

Apparently I forgot about this at some point in time because I picked up Digital deluxe upgrade on sale in 2014. Glad to help with some extra support and get rewarded with a badass car.

Thanks Bugbear!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 14, 2018, 08:04:21 AM
those who backed Bugbear and got the game on the site SHOULD get the backer car. I had an email change since then so I do hope I will get the car.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 14, 2018, 08:17:33 AM
those who backed Bugbear and got the game on the site SHOULD get the backer car. I had an email change since then so I do hope I will get the car.
The chance is pretty high that they will email the code so you better figure it out or find your old SendOwl link.

Also Weekend Smashers (lowest tier) don't get the car.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 14, 2018, 09:13:57 AM
janne, i wish you and the team a successful working day and all the best for the release. reward you after all these years! i can't wait and i really can't believe it, only almost 10 hours left!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on June 14, 2018, 10:03:54 AM
Thank you, it's been a long road and one can't help but feel even slightly wistful that the release is upon us. Even so, work will need to continue :)

And yes, everyone who pre-ordered the game via our own site will be sent a new key to unlock the backer car (as long as they're eligible, of course).
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 14, 2018, 11:15:16 AM
Last 9 hours !
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Hornet66 on June 14, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
Wishing you guys the best! The anxiety must be insane.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: MaexxDesign on June 14, 2018, 11:28:40 AM
no release yet.
when ?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 14, 2018, 11:32:16 AM
Thank you, it's been a long road and one can't help but feel even slightly wistful that the release is upon us. Even so, work will need to continue :)

And yes, everyone who pre-ordered the game via our own site will be sent a new key to unlock the backer car (as long as they're eligible, of course).

So I get a new key? I bought the game 2014 (Weekend Smahser) and the Deluxe Version on 9 June 2018. :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 14, 2018, 11:32:41 AM
no release yet.
when ?

19PM CEST
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 14, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
Thank you, it's been a long road and one can't help but feel even slightly wistful that the release is upon us. Even so, work will need to continue :)

And yes, everyone who pre-ordered the game via our own site will be sent a new key to unlock the backer car (as long as they're eligible, of course).

So I get a new key? I bought the game 2014 (Weekend Smahser) and the Deluxe Version on 9 June 2018. :)

Where you need new key when you have it all already?

And release is 5PM/17:00 GMT/UTC +0

That's where everyone can easily count their local time :P I hate when everybody posts their time zone name and not just GMT/UTC +X because it just causes confusion. I don't even know my time zone name, only the offset :D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 14, 2018, 11:56:53 AM
Thank you, it's been a long road and one can't help but feel even slightly wistful that the release is upon us. Even so, work will need to continue :)

And yes, everyone who pre-ordered the game via our own site will be sent a new key to unlock the backer car (as long as they're eligible, of course).

So I get a new key? I bought the game 2014 (Weekend Smahser) and the Deluxe Version on 9 June 2018. :)
did you upgrade to the deluxe version via steam?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 14, 2018, 12:06:56 PM
Thank you, it's been a long road and one can't help but feel even slightly wistful that the release is upon us. Even so, work will need to continue :)

And yes, everyone who pre-ordered the game via our own site will be sent a new key to unlock the backer car (as long as they're eligible, of course).

So I get a new key? I bought the game 2014 (Weekend Smahser) and the Deluxe Version on 9 June 2018. :)
did you upgrade to the deluxe version via steam?

Yes.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 14, 2018, 12:19:36 PM
I'm so disappointed i can't get any dlc or deluxe edition  >:(
Maybe ask a steam friend or someone who can buy it for you and gift it to you via steam? You pay him/her ofc.

And release is 5PM/17:00 GMT/UTC +0

I think GMT is UTC +1 during summer. That would make it 18:00 GMT, I think.

Here's an alphabetical list of cities around the world with the local release time. :)

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 14, 2018, 12:25:29 PM
Thank you, it's been a long road and one can't help but feel even slightly wistful that the release is upon us. Even so, work will need to continue :)

And yes, everyone who pre-ordered the game via our own site will be sent a new key to unlock the backer car (as long as they're eligible, of course).

So I get a new key? I bought the game 2014 (Weekend Smahser) and the Deluxe Version on 9 June 2018. :)

did you upgrade to the deluxe version via steam?

Yes.

so you dont get a new key. you should already have a list with the deluxe content in your steam page ;)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 14, 2018, 12:51:19 PM
Created my countdown timer from a website.   this may help some people.

(https://pending.me.uk/cd/ora_1528995600.png) (https://www.pending.me.uk)

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Paul_B on June 14, 2018, 12:52:51 PM
Have fun with the DLC guys, I'll catch it later on the Steam sale!!

Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 14, 2018, 01:14:40 PM
Thank you, it's been a long road and one can't help but feel even slightly wistful that the release is upon us. Even so, work will need to continue :)

And yes, everyone who pre-ordered the game via our own site will be sent a new key to unlock the backer car (as long as they're eligible, of course).

So I get a new key? I bought the game 2014 (Weekend Smahser) and the Deluxe Version on 9 June 2018. :)

did you upgrade to the deluxe version via steam?

Yes.

so you dont get a new key. you should already have a list with the deluxe content in your steam page ;)

Okay, thanks. Yes i have the list in my steam page!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 14, 2018, 01:15:05 PM
Have fun with the DLC guys, I'll catch it later on the Steam sale!!

Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk

NO, steam sale
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 14, 2018, 01:34:28 PM
I think GMT is UTC +1 during summer. That would make it 18:00 GMT, I think.

I've learned recently that GMT doesn't change at all. For example Britan is BST in summer which is GMT/UTC +1
Though I've seen couple of times some events in Twitch marked like you said and then people in chat have been confused why nothing starts :D

6h26mins to go 8)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Paul_B on June 14, 2018, 01:49:38 PM
Have fun with the DLC guys, I'll catch it later on the Steam sale!!

Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk

NO, steam sale
Not today or next week but you know it will happen

Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 14, 2018, 02:20:19 PM
I think GMT is UTC +1 during summer. That would make it 18:00 GMT, I think.
I've learned recently that GMT doesn't change at all. For example Britan is BST in summer which is GMT/UTC +1
Ah, yes, that makes sense. My bad. Thanks for clarifying.

T - 340 minutes  ;)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Raindog on June 14, 2018, 02:38:17 PM
Does anybody know if my current build will be upgraded or if I'll have to download a complete new game? I'm tight on hard disc space, if the current version isn't being upgraded I'd delete it in advance...
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 14, 2018, 02:41:30 PM
Have fun with the DLC guys, I'll catch it later on the Steam sale!!

Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk

NO, steam sale
Not today or next week but you know it will happen

Sent from my G3311 using Tapatalk

Yeah, but not for the DLC. Today it's over with the actually DLC.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: SAM on June 14, 2018, 02:44:34 PM
Does anybody know if my current build will be upgraded or if I'll have to download a complete new game? I'm tight on hard disc space, if the current version isn't being upgraded I'd delete it in advance...

I have the same question.... What if anything will Steam "early access" owners need to do?
What if I'm in game at the time of update?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 14, 2018, 02:56:58 PM
Does anybody know if my current build will be upgraded or if I'll have to download a complete new game? I'm tight on hard disc space, if the current version isn't being upgraded I'd delete it in advance...

I have the same question.... What if anything will Steam "early access" owners need to do?
What if I'm in game at the time of update?
Does anybody know if my current build will be upgraded or if I'll have to download a complete new game? I'm tight on hard disc space, if the current version isn't being upgraded I'd delete it in advance...

Dont need to do anything,just wait and itll update your current files to most recent (release build)

If you are in game during the release,nothing will happen either. Youll just carry on as you are until the server own pulls down the server or you quit the game. Then it will update.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: FabiEnz on June 14, 2018, 02:59:59 PM
Just upadate your early accsess version, finish it and let's play!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: SAM on June 14, 2018, 03:05:31 PM
Does anybody know if my current build will be upgraded or if I'll have to download a complete new game? I'm tight on hard disc space, if the current version isn't being upgraded I'd delete it in advance...

I have the same question.... What if anything will Steam "early access" owners need to do?
What if I'm in game at the time of update?
Does anybody know if my current build will be upgraded or if I'll have to download a complete new game? I'm tight on hard disc space, if the current version isn't being upgraded I'd delete it in advance...

Dont need to do anything,just wait and itll update your current files to most recent (release build)

If you are in game during the release,nothing will happen either. Youll just carry on as you are until the server own pulls down the server or you quit the game. Then it will update.

Cheers... see y'all on the other side  :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: ScorpionDriver on June 14, 2018, 05:55:48 PM
A lot has changed since 2013, but not my excitement for this game!!!
THE COUNTDOWN HAS BEGUN

Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: TPEHAK on June 14, 2018, 05:59:09 PM
Will the level, money and cars be zeroed after full game release?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tox_42 on June 14, 2018, 06:00:21 PM
Will the level, money and cars be zeroed after full game release?
yes
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: guest100380 on June 14, 2018, 06:03:23 PM
2 hours to go.  8) ;D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 14, 2018, 06:10:35 PM
Will the level, money and cars be zeroed after full game release?

Yes indeed. we will all have to start from scratch again. but that is not a bad thing, will be fun to gain everything back  8)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: BrianUK on June 14, 2018, 06:18:08 PM
Will the level, money and cars be zeroed after full game release?

Yes indeed. we will all have to start from scratch again. but that is not a bad thing, will be fun to gain everything back  8)

Gives us all a proper reason to actually play the career.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 14, 2018, 06:50:32 PM
Will the level, money and cars be zeroed after full game release?

Yes indeed. we will all have to start from scratch again. but that is not a bad thing, will be fun to gain everything back  8)

Gives us all a proper reason to actually play the career.

Ughh I just realized I have a lot of cars in inventory!  and all set specifically for great handling!!!  ???

(http://i68.tinypic.com/261hlwn.jpg)

So I am curious about another thing,... would it be safe to have just the high lighted things backed up and restored ?

(http://i65.tinypic.com/s1spw5.jpg)

I want to keep my hard earned money, so I can buy all my cars back. I will not keep my cars, because of the missing parts problem.
ughhh what to do lol. I have an hour and 11 minutes to decide!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: sam223 on June 14, 2018, 06:59:34 PM
@daystar: Back them up. The worse thatll happen is game wont load,in which case remove your backup and verify cache
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Pekonilkki on June 14, 2018, 06:59:46 PM
Soooon, so sooooon, very sooooooooooooooooon. My body, and my controller is ready. Give it to me, Bugbear. Give it to me hard
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 14, 2018, 07:12:27 PM
Daystar, you shouldn't do that ! Enjoy the way to earn money by buying your new cars, upgrading them like in the old day in Flatout !
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 14, 2018, 07:16:08 PM
Daystar, you shouldn't do that ! Enjoy the way to earn money by buying your new cars, upgrading them like in the old day in Flatout !

Yeah yeah I know that. but it's more of a personal thing... I earned all my exp, & credits. not by hacking with CE. I put well over 4000 hours into my game lol
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Paul_B on June 14, 2018, 07:17:02 PM
There's some new game videos on the Tube already, BB must have actived the hype train earlier.

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Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: SAM on June 14, 2018, 07:18:17 PM
I'm so disappointed i can't get any dlc or deluxe edition  >:(
Maybe ask a steam friend or someone who can buy it for you and gift it to you via steam? You pay him/her ofc.

And release is 5PM/17:00 GMT/UTC +0

I think GMT is UTC +1 during summer. That would make it 18:00 GMT, I think.

This seems to be the case 17:15 GMT & nothing so far.... Restarted Steam client a couple of times too but nothing....
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 14, 2018, 07:28:36 PM
So curious if we break that record tonight!

(http://i65.tinypic.com/344yuqg.jpg)

A lot online now (sorta)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: St. Jimmy on June 14, 2018, 07:42:17 PM
I'm so disappointed i can't get any dlc or deluxe edition  >:(
Maybe ask a steam friend or someone who can buy it for you and gift it to you via steam? You pay him/her ofc.

And release is 5PM/17:00 GMT/UTC +0

I think GMT is UTC +1 during summer. That would make it 18:00 GMT, I think.

This seems to be the case 17:15 GMT & nothing so far.... Restarted Steam client a couple of times too but nothing....
You live in the future? https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/gmt it's 16:42 GMT now.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: PsychOXRat on June 14, 2018, 07:48:49 PM
Here's hoping we don't find a game breaking almost immediately after launch like we usually manage to do. Janne, hopefully you and the other devs will be able to rest easy knowing NCG finally released after years of ups and downs
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 14, 2018, 07:50:38 PM
10 last minutes to say Bye Bye to early access
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 14, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
10 last minutes to say Bye Bye to early access

It's been a sweet ride watching our cool game get developed! Damn I am so stoked right now! I disabled all my mods.. just incase it would not launch  ;D
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 14, 2018, 07:56:07 PM
4 minutes guys !
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Tonza on June 14, 2018, 07:59:10 PM
Downloading... 4gigs
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: LUNITIC_WILL on June 14, 2018, 08:00:17 PM
what do we do if we don't get the email for the Backer car like we're supposed to?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Calamann on June 14, 2018, 08:00:28 PM
its out!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 14, 2018, 08:00:56 PM
Yeha heve you got the update?  :P
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RickyB on June 14, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
damn.... still 1 hour for me to download...  aahhhhh
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Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RacerBest on June 14, 2018, 08:06:11 PM
what do we do if we don't get the email for the Backer car like we're supposed to?
I want to know also, when are we getting backer cars?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Merhunes Dagon on June 14, 2018, 08:06:22 PM
Aaaah I have to wait 1h30 for 4gb ! Thx my internet  :P I can't wait please download FASTER !
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: XavierBK on June 14, 2018, 08:06:53 PM
what do we do if we don't get the email for the Backer car like we're supposed to?
Kind of silly that those who supported early directly from BB site have to wait to get this content...
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 14, 2018, 08:08:40 PM
Oh sweet hail mary! glad I upgraded my internet a few months back!!!
wooohoo!

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Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: BrianUK on June 14, 2018, 08:09:25 PM
Well, the day I thought would never come is here. Well done Bugbear, you proved me wrong, and the game isn't so bad ;)

Hope to see some of you on the track.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: VX97 on June 14, 2018, 08:11:11 PM
what do we do if we don't get the email for the Backer car like we're supposed to?
Kind of silly that those who supported early directly from BB site have to wait to get this content...
Yep. Haven't received any keys to backer car in email yet.  :'(
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Huono on June 14, 2018, 08:24:26 PM
Yes would also like to get the backer car :p
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Speedevil on June 14, 2018, 08:31:41 PM
I purchased the digital deluxe edition back in 2013 but I don't have the backer car, any idea why? Is there anything to do to unlock it?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: RiptoR on June 14, 2018, 09:11:01 PM
what do we do if we don't get the email for the Backer car like we're supposed to?
Kind of silly that those who supported early directly from BB site have to wait to get this content...
Yep. Haven't received any keys to backer car in email yet.  :'(

Same here, no key yet. Also checked the "old" SendOwl link, but no extra key on there either.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: UsF on June 14, 2018, 09:23:45 PM
Grats on the release. Thank you for this game.  :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 14, 2018, 09:28:51 PM
Man this game is so cool! and lmao, my old save data does not work. fine we start over again lmao!
Oh and I love that the music finally plays though out the race!

One sad thing though.... ughh still no car stats (info)! maybe after Bugbears well deserved vacation, they might add that feature  :D
well time to take a few m ore puffs, and a swig or two off my beer, and back into the Official Bugbear server(s) Cheers everyone! (https://img00.deviantart.net/d91e/i/2005/132/2/c/cool_car_by_pixeltainment.gif)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: chartercook on June 14, 2018, 10:36:45 PM
the discord link is not working.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Heddly on June 15, 2018, 01:02:24 AM
Man this game is so cool! and lmao, my old save data does not work. fine we start over again lmao!
Oh and I love that the music finally plays though out the race!

One sad thing though.... ughh still no car stats (info)! maybe after Bugbears well deserved vacation, they might add that feature  :D
well time to take a few m ore puffs, and a swig or two off my beer, and back into the Official Bugbear server(s) Cheers everyone! (https://img00.deviantart.net/d91e/i/2005/132/2/c/cool_car_by_pixeltainment.gif)

In the Garage/My Cars, on the lower right it says Toggle Info by using "C' button or can use the mouse to click.

Is this what you are referring to?
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Daystar on June 15, 2018, 01:58:32 AM
Man this game is so cool! and lmao, my old save data does not work. fine we start over again lmao!
Oh and I love that the music finally plays though out the race!

One sad thing though.... ughh still no car stats (info)! maybe after Bugbears well deserved vacation, they might add that feature  :D
well time to take a few m ore puffs, and a swig or two off my beer, and back into the Official Bugbear server(s) Cheers everyone! (https://img00.deviantart.net/d91e/i/2005/132/2/c/cool_car_by_pixeltainment.gif)

In the Garage/My Cars, on the lower right it says Toggle Info by using "C' button or can use the mouse to click.

Is this what you are referring to?
No not at all...
All my prev. cars are gone. and not even any of my backup files work ughhh... but what ever heh!
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Heddly on June 15, 2018, 02:33:34 AM
I can not find the Harvester or Lawnmower or other new vehicles in the Market. I'm not referring to the Backer car.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Heddly on June 15, 2018, 02:55:38 AM
I also noticed that right clicking Wreckfest then properties I see this. There is no DLC tab
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: XavierBK on June 15, 2018, 03:12:54 AM
I can not find the Harvester or Lawnmower or other new vehicles in the Market. I'm not referring to the Backer car.
The lawnmower is an event reward in the lowest class. Not sure about the Harvester, haven't reached the third class yet.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Heddly on June 15, 2018, 03:17:44 AM
I can not find the Harvester or Lawnmower or other new vehicles in the Market. I'm not referring to the Backer car.
The lawnmower is an event reward in the lowest class. Not sure about the Harvester, haven't reached the third class yet.

Thanks for the reply  :)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Carma_bogman on June 15, 2018, 03:42:49 AM
congratulations on the massive effort that you have put into this game and the work that really shines in everything this game shows.

i am happy i backed the game all that time ago. 
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: VX97 on June 15, 2018, 03:56:09 AM
One thing that is frustating I have seen my AI name only one time in career mode, I don't know if this is bug or something. I just love to race against AI myself. EDIT : Moving this into Support, moderator can remove this message.
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: lastday4u on July 14, 2018, 06:13:20 PM
Will names registered after released (for TeamBugBear Package) be added into the game in the future? (Sorry if this has already been mentioned)
Title: Re: Wreckfest leaves Early Access
Post by: Purple44 on August 23, 2018, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: Sulfito
just to tell u guys that wreckfest is now on 25%, for the ones who were waiting for a sale
https://store.steampowered.com/app/228380/