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Wreckfest => Game Design => Topic started by: shwabler on January 03, 2015, 08:20:05 PM

Title: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: shwabler on January 03, 2015, 08:20:05 PM
The clutch adds a huge difference to the gameplay and alot of people can agree on this. Im just wondering when will it appear...?
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Fisu on January 03, 2015, 09:02:31 PM
How it will happening is the question and not easy one. But yeah it's big part of start grid and donuts. In full speed it's not so important for speed but simulator thing is quite huge.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Jotaele on April 10, 2015, 07:58:39 PM
+1 some time i whant to turn 180 º after a crash and i really miss the clutch, and in  other situations of course.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: oskar669 on April 15, 2015, 09:49:09 PM
I just got myself a G27 yesterday. On the plus side NCG is the only game where my force feedback doesn't spazz out and not only that,  actually feels really really good. I don't really need a clutch, but it would help me feel good about myself.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: findRED on April 16, 2015, 01:19:15 AM
I play with a pad and I want a clutch!  The good racing games had it implemented, so I Expect it to be In Wreckfest because this is going to be a great racing game.  Don't let me down Bugbear.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: NeoGreendawg on April 16, 2015, 01:30:52 AM
I'd ike to see a clutch too. It's not at the top of my list but it would be nice.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: CrySpy on April 16, 2015, 08:16:53 AM
Clutch support is a must for any racing game that is somewhat realistic, which I believe Wreckfest to fall under. I won't make a huge difference for me now as my steering wheel only got paddles and I can't seem to be able to handle the cluth with paddles. :P
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: kruleworld on April 18, 2015, 10:04:13 AM
Having a clutch will fit well with the age of the vehicles released so far. I certainly want the option of one.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Cono on April 22, 2015, 10:46:07 PM
+1 for clutch
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Cono on April 25, 2015, 01:45:11 AM
Just played few hours with manual transmission.
It felt really good, except I couldn't anticipate the next gear.
I was trying to use clutch for timing and gear was mostly shifted too early, because clutch isn't working.
I don't want learn to use shifter for a clutch (N), because it's just so wrong :(

In my opinion clutch is the biggest problem atm.
Physics felt quite nice (again) and I was wondering how BB could improve those with next physics patch :) Good luck with that :D
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: kickstart on December 22, 2015, 10:42:28 AM
Hello,
i just waiting for the clutch, too. It's very important for good driving and should not be mush work, to insert it in the game. 
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: St. Jimmy on December 22, 2015, 07:40:43 PM
When the game gets clutch and shifting problem is fixed, the game will rise to a new level and I know guys that are waiting for those things the most.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: DaWaN on December 28, 2015, 11:30:37 AM
The thing I miss most about Wreckfest in its current state is decent H-pattern shifting with working clutch for the G27.
Now I am using the paddle shifters on the G27 and its just dire.
I have to bash the "gear up" on the starts to get away; and many times I do not get off the line quickly and cause a havok.
Also the gear changes are really slow, when I spin I spend 80% of the time waiting to get into reverse.
I have the H-shifter with clutch pedal and I love this game; so I really want to make use of them :)
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: findRED on December 29, 2015, 08:50:31 AM
For those with difficulty getting into reverse quickly, I recommend you look at assigning a button to it.  You will have to hold the button down to engage R, but it's quick change especially from 4th or 5th gear.  This may help those with a H-shifter as well (just assign each gear to its respective position), but, as I do not have a H-shifter I cannot test it myself.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: sam223 on February 06, 2016, 01:37:13 PM
+1 for clutch. Even a fake clutch would suffice.Allow neutral to be assigned to a button, on button press neutral,on button release return to previous gear.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Laalbz on February 08, 2016, 11:02:40 AM
pleeeeeease Bugbear!!!??!!
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: rhamm on February 16, 2016, 06:17:06 AM
I'm just tired of the crappy double clutching that goes on now while the AI cars drive off.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Kompressor on February 28, 2016, 04:51:58 PM
Yeah, really wanted to use my own clutch pedal with H-shifter. Still impatiently awaiting for it to be implemented))
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: CapnFlappyJaw on April 21, 2016, 10:45:47 PM
Bumping this. It sucks not having a clutch. I still find myself "using" it when shifting gears (it's not my fault, my daily is a 5-speed) and it sucks when you need to give your car a little bit of a rpm boost, and shifting from one gear to neutral and back takes a lot more time than engaging the clutch for a half second. It's not a necessity but it would be a really great feature that would definitely improve the game
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Laalbz on May 23, 2016, 08:38:14 PM
Bugbear!!! We need a clutch doods... are you planning on giving us one or just waiting for a modder to do it?
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Sycose Sylum on July 14, 2016, 01:05:57 AM
+ 1

Please Add Clutch Support. Just purchased the game a few weeks ago. Very disappointed to find no clutch support. A clutch adds a tremendous dynamic to driving.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Edqar on August 28, 2016, 12:38:47 PM
+1
This game stays at shelf so long it is missing clutch.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Ak1504 on October 16, 2016, 01:45:50 PM
Totally agree... This game needs an manual clutch... @Team Bugbear: So any infos/respond on this topic ?
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: kickstart on May 12, 2017, 04:51:09 PM
Clutch is a real must have in a racing game like this.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: kettu31 on May 26, 2017, 04:06:44 PM
It is weird to use H pattern without clutch, why is it even made possible. Vote for clutch support obviously.
And at the same time I would like to emphasize need of VR support too!


Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: eje005 on June 08, 2017, 06:24:05 PM
It really is needed.  After manually shifting in all my racing sims, coming to Wreckfest and not having it is a huge let down.  Heel-toeing and shifting skills are half the fun of racing games.  Sometimes I ghost it just to pretend even though it does nothing in game, but it never feels right.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: rhamm on June 28, 2017, 02:27:17 PM
I don't understand why the game won't let me shift before the race starts but leaves the transmission in neutral.  It annoys me to no end that there's STILL not at least an auto clutch so I can start the race in gear when using a manual transmission.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: djfil007 on July 05, 2017, 02:31:26 AM
I agree 100%.  I'm sad to admit, I play in automatic mode due to lack of realistic gearbox.  Sequential doesn't feel right in these cars, and h-pattern without clutch is just wrong.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Majatek on July 25, 2017, 04:47:51 AM
The functionality support is already built-in at a base level (Bugbear already stated that support for clutch is practically already there - it just needs to be actually added), but yes.

+1 from me for clutch with manual transmission. I recently managed to get myself a wheel/pedals/H-pattern shifter sim setup, and it feels really incomplete without needing to use the clutch. Perhaps even make it so that if you fail to use the clutch while shifting gears, a horrible grinding sound comes from your car, and damage is added to your car's health. Fail using the clutch enough and your car will become too damaged to race anymore, and the event will end with a DNF!
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Laalbz on August 07, 2017, 07:40:52 PM
+1 for clutch
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on August 08, 2017, 10:18:14 AM
Already posted this in that other thread but notice anything out of place? :)

Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Paul_B on August 08, 2017, 04:22:40 PM
Hi Janne,

Good to see clutch now added  :)


Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Majatek on August 09, 2017, 04:33:20 AM
Already posted this in that other thread but notice anything out of place? :)


Sweet! :D

Hopefully there's some game mechanics added that damages your car if you change gears improperly with clutch and manual shifting (ie: the car doesn't change to the new gear if the clutch isn't used, and as for long as the gear stick is in the wrong gear damage is added until you DNF).
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Heddly on August 09, 2017, 05:39:21 AM
Already posted this in that other thread but notice anything out of place? :)


Sweet! :D

Hopefully there's some game mechanics added that damages your car if you change gears improperly with clutch and manual shifting (ie: the car doesn't change to the new gear if the clutch isn't used, and as for long as the gear stick is in the wrong gear damage is added until you DNF).

I use the clutch with iRacing and it seems to prevent you from shifting if the clutch is not timed right. I haven't noticed any problems that you mentioned.

 Are there other games that penalize you for an improper shift? I think it would be a bit too Sim oriented for Wreckfest.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Majatek on August 09, 2017, 05:58:13 AM
Well, it's all down to game balance - so while I can suggest things, it's up to the developers as they know what they're doing. So long as I get to hear a horrible grinding noise with an improper gear change (that continually makes the grinding sound until you correct the shift) in manual+clutch mode, I'll be happy. :P

So yeah, maybe a bit too sim-like, so I guess we'll have to wait and see!
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Janne Suur-Näkki on August 09, 2017, 08:53:07 AM
When using manual with clutch there will be a slight delay if the clutch is not engaged properly before shifting, we don't want to make it too penalizing when compared to not using the clutch.

And sure we need a scary grinding noise too just to make it sure you don't do it too often :)
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: St. Jimmy on August 09, 2017, 11:31:16 AM
When using manual with clutch there will be a slight delay if the clutch is not engaged properly before shifting, we don't want to make it too penalizing when compared to not using the clutch.

And sure we need a scary grinding noise too just to make it sure you don't do it too often :)
I would say make it so you damage the engine sector if you make bad shift. Engine sector damage doesn't have effect on performance or health.
Another option would be that it gives X amount of HP damage.

Options for those type of things for modders would be very welcome. Please come up with something we can play around ;)
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Paul_B on August 09, 2017, 01:39:40 PM
Assetto Corsa has shift protection will hold you in neutral until clutch pressed correctly. Can see there are shift options on menu, so anyone can play what ever their preference.
Title: Re: THE CLUTCH with manual transmission is a MUST option
Post by: Rocket455Man [FIN] on August 14, 2017, 07:57:22 PM
Already posted this in that other thread but notice anything out of place? :)


Sweet! :D

Hopefully there's some game mechanics added that damages your car if you change gears improperly with clutch and manual shifting (ie: the car doesn't change to the new gear if the clutch isn't used, and as for long as the gear stick is in the wrong gear damage is added until you DNF).

Hi!

I want to jump in gears. I am the trucker.  8)